serious wtf hand vs imspecial on ub

[Buffsta8]

Victor,

Don't beat yourself up over this you made an ok play and it backfired. It happens. If hes capable of opening Q9 here utg or checking a set on the flop hoping to be deceptive I like your play. Problem with hands like this are LAGs always get super paranoid when they check a flop like this that someone is stealing from them b/c thats what they would do if the shoe was on the other foot. I personally would have discounted the set/Q9 from his range and assume he had KJ QJ AJ and was just going crazy. The presence of the button being a spaz makes him more likely to cap light in my eyes. If you pasted this hand and he had TT or q9 or whatever the board would have been saying how well you play and how you are the next schneids. Everyone is really results oriented on here and every fold that goes wrong is a bonehead play and every light call down that goes right is the best play ever!

[Victor]

ty for the encouragement buffsta but he NEVER checks a set on the flop.

also, would anyones opinion change if i am 85% sure hes a bot?

[Buffsta8]

its a pretty sick bot to 4 bet that turn lol [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

nice programming [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Buffsta8]

If you have these suspicions its a bot it almost certainly won't raise Q9s or Q9 o utg so I think if you can discount ever checking a pair or set on flop then don't this.

[Neko]

Victor,
I think this fold is fine against him, I wouldn't have 3 bet the turn tho.

[Victor]

"If you have these suspicions its a bot it almost certainly won't raise Q9s or Q9 o utg"

wtf, why not?

[Neko]

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If you have these suspicions its a bot it almost certainly won't raise Q9s or Q9 o utg s

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That seeems like a pretty naive assumption.

[Buffsta8]

I just assumed that the bot didnt run record bad pre flop plays... If you've seen it open worse than certainly this is part of an acceptable range but I didnt think it'd stoop this low Q9 utg... if its running stuff like that and its the biggest winner in the game wow [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Victor]

i would say q9s and 97s are easily within opening range.

[Neko]

his UTG opening range includes J5s