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03-30-2007, 01:47 PM
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Re: How do you like the river. CAZ 20/40.
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I'm already known as an alcoholic in this forum, but I guess you're the only one who really knows how true that is. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know if your an alcoholic but I do know that you're a friendly, happy guy. I like your playing attitude a lot. And it's back to the 20 game for me for a bit. It was 'AK no good' one time too many in the 40 game for me a couple of days ago so I'm dropping down. 
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#13
03-30-2007, 01:58 PM
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Re: How do you like the river. CAZ 20/40.
i don't think you should 3bet the river.... it's well concealed but there's not that many flushes that she could have given your read that she would play like this that you beat... i don't think there's anyway she's not 3-betting a set there given a chance to price out a gutshot or fold out a T...
i would call the river raise... probably play the flop a bit differently....
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#14
03-30-2007, 02:08 PM
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Re: How do you like the river. CAZ 20/40.
It seems like the least likely hand for her to have is a smaller flush. Unless she has exactly QTs, it's hard to come up with any other spade hands she'd open raise with (with the 8, 9, and 6 of spades out there). If she did have QT, she'd probably just 3-bet the turn with her straight, although I suppose there's a possibility that she'd try to get an overcall from button.
I have a hard time putting her on a set - if she had 88,99, or 33, why wouldn't she 3-bet the turn on this draw-heavy board? It's hard to imagine that she'd call the turn c/r with 66. So I think I'd just call the river raise, because AXs makes a lot of sense for the way she played this hand. I suppose 3-betting is fine if you can fold to a 4-bet, but since I'm utterly incapable of doing that, I'd probably just call the raise.
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#15
03-30-2007, 03:29 PM
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Re: How do you like the river. CAZ 20/40.
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yeah i played with her a few times but i was pretty drunk (I'm trend, jack and coke brian, by the way, in case you haven't figured it out already). She probably has the nuts, but whatever, you played it fine. [/ QUOTE ] OK, I do beleive I know who you are now.
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#16
03-30-2007, 11:20 PM
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Re: How do you like the river. CAZ 20/40.
blindside --
Three-betting this river is a must. This is because Tang plays extremely well (she's better than most of the pros in the game, and in most cases it's not even close). For similar reasons you have to call the four-bet. If you were playing a perfect computer you'd also have to call. --Nate
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#17
03-31-2007, 12:01 AM
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Re: How do you like the river. CAZ 20/40.
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So I think I'd just call the river raise, because AXs makes a lot of sense for the way she played this hand. I suppose 3-betting is fine if you can fold to a 4-bet, but since I'm utterly incapable of doing that, I'd probably just call the raise. [/ QUOTE ] This is exactly what I was going to say, but want to point out, that it does depend on how often your 3-bet is called vs how often you are 4-bet and call (because you don't have the guts to fold). For example, if you 3bet and are called 100 times and are only raised once, then it doesn't matter if you donate 8 chips one time. The raise is worth it even though you can't fold when you are beat. So your 3-bet needs to be called more than 66% of the times which you are called or 3-bet. Assuming you hand reading is correct, you are putting the raiser on nothing or Axs, then raising and paying off is giving money away. But if the raiser would open with all kinds of trashy suited hands from the HJ then 3-betting and calling probably ain't too bad.
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#20
04-01-2007, 12:52 AM
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Re: How do you like the river. CAZ 20/40.
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[ QUOTE ] You guys who think Tang is some great player are costing yourselves a lot of money. She is robbing you blind [/ QUOTE ] Then she is a great player. [/ QUOTE ] Tang is a decent player, better than the average in the game. She has standards and pays attention to what's going on. She has control of herself and some card sense. This is enough to make her a winner. She also has a good image in the game. Perhaps most importantly she has that one TREMENDOUS advantage of being a woman. So many men will not/can not give a woman credit or simply 'refuse' to let a woman beat them that she gets too much action. She's not some savant/killer-genius player (but then how many of us really are) but she's good enough to beat the game.
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