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Old 03-25-2007, 07:47 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

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super easy preflop raise too.

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Old 03-25-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

Raise PF. Never fold the flop in this spot ever. EVER!
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

your EV= -$1,232,394,321 folding here in .5/1 on that board
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

Meh, it's closer than people think, I think. I think he's got a set > 20% of the time, but even if you only give him a set 1/5 and give him air 1/5, it's marginally +EV.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,561,520 games 0.016 secs 535,095,000 games/sec

Board: 9s7h3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.637% 42.05% 00.59% 3599810 50568.50 { 3c3s }
Hand 1: 57.363% 56.77% 00.59% 4860573 50568.50 { 7c7s, AdTd, Kh9h, Th8h, 9s7s }
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

AJ your range cannot be right against a guy we have no reads on other than that he limped preflop
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

Can also very easily have AA or KK.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:15 PM
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I pity the fool that folds a set here.

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Old 03-25-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

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AJ your range cannot be right against a guy we have no reads on other than that he limped preflop

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So fix it. Weight it real nice too.

What would you say:

set 1/5
naked flush draw 2/5
combo 1/5
air-9x-kk 1/5

???
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

this hand is pretty bizarre and it's hard to come up with a precise range but intuitively i know it's wide enough that this is a snap call and that's really all that matters.

i worry about handreading more in marginal spots. if i sweated out every standard spot i were in i'd be too stressed to play
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:26 PM
Sh@i'tan Sh@i'tan is offline
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Default Re: bottom set, i cant fold here can i?

why did you just limp pf? anyway, flop is such an easy call sooooooooooooooooo many draws he can have.
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