NL200 - Squeeze play lands me in hot water

[Casper05]

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You might be ahead, but unless this guys a total donk just fold. Even if you have him beat, which i dont think you do, he will bet turn and bet river. Most of the time if he is bluffing its a semi bluff and it will hit somewhere along the line. Whats ur best situation here villian has AKo?

[/ QUOTE ]soo we want to fold even if we have him beat because he's going to keep betting when behind?? sounds like ez $$ to me.

[SABR42]

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You might be ahead, but unless this guys a total donk just fold. Even if you have him beat, which i dont think you do, he will bet turn and bet river. Most of the time if he is bluffing its a semi bluff and it will hit somewhere along the line. Whats ur best situation here villian has AKo?

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WTF?

There is no betting on the turn and river.

[syphlix]

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Hand 0: 39.685% 39.11% 00.58% 13164 194.00 { AcQd }
Hand 1: 60.315% 59.74% 00.58% 20108 194.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo }

[/ QUOTE ]what does it say when you add in AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT, and 9T?

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pretty similar... i left out the non-sooted versions of the < A hands cuz i think it's just too unlikely that a 21/14 calls a 3-bet w/ <= KQo

by the end it costs you mmm... about 130 into 330 i think?

i think the point is that a call is a (slightly) good thing... esp considering the (small) chance that he mite just be bluffing?

anyone see different?

Hand 0: 44.734% 39.60% 05.14% 25482 3304.50 { AcQd }
Hand 1: 55.266% 50.13% 05.14% 32259 3304.50 { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, AJo+ }

[therockofgibraltar]

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Hand 0: 39.685% 39.11% 00.58% 13164 194.00 { AcQd }
Hand 1: 60.315% 59.74% 00.58% 20108 194.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo }

[/ QUOTE ]what does it say when you add in AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT, and 9T?

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43 vs 57

[Shady_deuces]

yes even if were beating him i fold...villian has wat in this hand...a flopped set, which were crushed, kj suited, Ak hearts, at worst when were facing a raise on this flop he has 87 hearts...therefore a fold because any turn card other then a total brick is dangerous...and for sabr im saying if he bets the flop the vilian will continue with bets on further streets.

[SABR42]

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yes even if were beating him i fold...villian has wat in this hand...a flopped set, which were crushed, kj suited, Ak hearts, at worst when were facing a raise on this flop he has 87 hearts...therefore a fold because any turn card other then a total brick is dangerous...and for sabr im saying if he bets the flop the vilian will continue with bets on further streets.

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Again, WTF? After we call, there is no more betting.

[therockofgibraltar]

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yes even if were beating him i fold...villian has wat in this hand...a flopped set, which were crushed, kj suited, Ak hearts, at worst when were facing a raise on this flop he has 87 hearts...therefore a fold because any turn card other then a total brick is dangerous...and for sabr im saying if he bets the flop the vilian will continue with bets on further streets.

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Again, WTF? After we call, there is no more betting.

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he is a troll. dont bother, mate

[aislephive]

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Hand 0: 39.685% 39.11% 00.58% 13164 194.00 { AcQd }
Hand 1: 60.315% 59.74% 00.58% 20108 194.00 { 99+, AKs, AKo }

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No offense, but that's a pretty far off range. And even if it was correct, we would be correct to call with pot odds.

From what I remember of TheHumanChord he cold calls a lot of raises with speculative hands like suited connectors and gappers.

I think this is a more accurate range:

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178,200 games 0.005 secs 35,640,000 games/sec

Board: Qh Th 9s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.010% 38.35% 00.66% 68336 1180.50 { AQo }
Hand 1: 60.990% 60.33% 00.66% 107503 1180.50 { JJ-99, QJs, JTs, T9s, 9h8h }

It's very, very close. If we take out JJ then we're only 30% against his range. I'm not sure how loose he is with calling reraises either, so it's a pretty rough range I know he will show up with AK in this spot almost never though.

So I think this is a call, but it's very close.