Mr. Inconsistent : KTs UTG

[benwood]

You are correct about the numbers,rafiki.If you get a chance,pick up a copy of "The Theory of Poker",by Sklansky.

[rafiki]

Ya I've got it actually. On the shelf with all the usuals. (gordon, caro, etc...)

I just haven't touched them in so long. I found the more I memorized, the less I really understood. So I tried doing more practicle examples so that some of the math would make sense to me. For whatever reason, despite doing years of science and math in university, I just always sucked at stats.

[3rdCheckRaise]

I think Rafiki is right. I think once in 9 times we will see A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]-A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or 99. Without club draw on the flop i fold the river too.

[rafiki]

lol the more I think about it, the more I wonder if we're even good 1 in 9. You gotta have some big balls to raise the turn after being check raised on the flop, and then showing air on the river when we call. Any good players on here do that ? Do you ever do it hoping for the ideal river card to complete your bluff, knowing that a pair of kings couldn't call a river: A, 6, 7, 8, club ? lol I might try that. I'll probably get owned [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[benwood]

If you call a long-shot without quite proper odds,your average loss is small.If you call a 9 to 1 shot with a hand that will really only win once every 13 hands,let's say,it's no big deal.

(Any of you math guys like to put some numbers on this?)

[Sqred]

I only play six max online so it is pretty much a natural that I would find myself in this position more than a few times a session.

I think you need to check the turn when you pick up the gutterball draw. I play a little higher than 15 so I would be very leary of a semibluff here with something like a pair and str8 draw or pair and flush draw. the Turn semibluff is just so fashionable right now in the mid-limits. I would check because I know for a fact that the street will get bet anyway, I would like to make two bets from an underpair, and I don't want to face a hard decison with this strong of a hand shorthanded.

Back to HPFAP, check hands that may be beaten but have outs on the turn, bet hands with no outs if behind. Contol pot size the best you can out of position.

FJM

[PokerBob]

nh. you are not winning on the river.