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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
Interesting subject.
I really don’t get why it is more difficult to calculate 3-betting frequency than cold-calling or limp-calling. They all include how the player reacts to bets by the co-players. [ QUOTE ] My belive is that the Pre-flop aggresion factor is usefully but I don’t know if tight oppenents easier gets a higher stats there. I also think there is some kind of relation ship between Pfr %, Cold call %, Raise first in and pre-flop agrresion factor that could be combined in a formula. [/ QUOTE ] The preflop aggression factor is simply pfr/vip so it doesn’t provide any additional information. If I have understood the definition of cold-calling correctly it is a very dangerous move in NL so this statistic is almost always close to zero. Perhaps one could construct a new measure of preflop aggression to include attempts to steal blind and raise first in. Chris |
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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
I have several times asked PT PAT to create a RE-STEAL statistic...e.g. CO or Button raises, and one of the blinds RE-pops it -- but he never replies to me...I can't even begin to tell you how useful that stat would be...
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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
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We all know that PT can’t work out the 3-betting %/Frequency for us so thats something we gonna have to do manually (Assume that it would be a software out now if it was possible). [/ QUOTE ] Do we know that? I know there's not a PT stat that says 3-bet, but I think the data is there in Postgres and can be found with a bit-o'-the-ol' in-out in-out. My job sucks and it's slow today.... |
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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
Looks good, but the best would be to have the 3bet/"chance to 3bet". Not 3bet/"total hands".
Or maybe that's what it is? Mr Snood (the guy who developed SpadeEye) is in the prosess of making a new program (he posted a beta a few weeks ago). He said he would try to include PF 3bet. |
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[ QUOTE ] how about a program that exports all of these 3bet%'s from the spreadsheet and adds them to each player's notes file on pokerstars. So while you are playing you can click on their notes thing and see what their % is, instead of having to go into excel all the time and scrolling down a list of 40,000 players. [/ QUOTE ] Not sure about Stars, but assuming one column for name and one for %, then it's incredibly easy to export to the Party Notes.txt file as it is just in the form "Name~Notes>", eg: Tom21~3%> Bill~34%> Eddy49~7%> Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Would this append or delete exisiting notes? |
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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
I've spent the last 6 months working on a project... it is close to being ready for beta so I don't mind sharing a little bit.
Regarding 3-betting specifically, you can see 3 betting %'s by position of bettor and player 3 betting, 4 betting numbers, 3 betting vs just a raiser or vs raiser and caller(s), all known 4 bet hands, all known call 4bet hands (for unknown hands it will still show "Folded Flop" or "Won on Turn" etc), folding to 3 bet, folding to 4 bet etc. This is all available in the HUD. This is not a "3-bet" product - I'm just sharing the data that is specific to 3 betting here. I'm the guy that wrote Tourney Manager and the beta for that was essentially done in a month - just to give you guys an idea of scope and to hopefully add some confidence that this isn't one of a hundred programs that have been mentioned here that never get off the ground. rvg |
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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
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Looks good, but the best would be to have the 3bet/"chance to 3bet". Not 3bet/"total hands". Or maybe that's what it is? Mr Snood (the guy who developed SpadeEye) is in the prosess of making a new program (he posted a beta a few weeks ago). He said he would try to include PF 3bet. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, funny you should mention that as I was just working on it. It now displays - Player, Total hands, total 3-bet opportunities (ie there has been a raise), total no. of 3-bets, %age of 3-bets/3-bet opportunities. |
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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rvg
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Re: 3-betting, lets find a solution
tttt: Thats exactly what I’m after it looks very intresting but send all the HHs to you everytime seams to be a hazzel for both you and me. Is there any chance you could sell it? I guess you worried that you only sell one licence and then find your application on the net after. But Just name a high enough price and maybe restrict the number of licens.
rvg72: I’m more than happy to help you beta test your software you can PM if you don’t want to answere in this thread. |
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