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Old 03-19-2007, 04:23 PM
BG1124 BG1124 is offline
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Default Re: nl200 overpair facing all-in

to be honest, there isn't an exact reasoning for raising this flop. I mostly did it because his original preflop raise looked very much like QQ+ or even AQ+ and i didnt not want to be stuck if the turn came a Q,K, or A. I was hoping to just take the pot down right here. When he shoved, i was about 90% sure he had me beat, which means he most likely would have bet the turn leaving me with another call or fold situation which i did not want to be in.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: nl200 overpair facing all-in

raising this flop is horrible if you intend on folding to a shove.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: nl200 overpair facing all-in

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Everyone is saying that the flop raise is *bad*, and I disagree.

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can you elaborate?

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I just mean that the raise isn't -EV. It may not (or may) be optimal, but it's not a losing play.

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Open shoving AA PF is +EV and yet it's horrible. This flop raise/fold is bad without some kind of very specific read.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: nl200 overpair facing all-in

A lot of opponents could donk-call with a hand like JT here most of the time, but show up with a set every now and then. So I still don't agree.
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Old 03-19-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: nl200 overpair facing all-in

I would raise 4-6bb instead of 3 because I like to take the pot immediately with JJ. In this situation my first impression is that the raise postflop after a bet is a good one.

But after reading some other opinions I think call the bet after the flop is a better one.
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