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Old 03-19-2007, 01:52 PM
w33ktight w33ktight is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

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I bet more on the flop.

Am I the only one that wants to check-behind on the turn?

Are we really hoping to get 3 streets of value with TPTK where top pair is a ten?

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i think we can get a $60 call out of a worse 10. i would bet, but my image is always laggy.
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:54 PM
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I check behind river. I think you are ahead a lot but cant see what worse hands will call unless you know he is a calling station

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villian is unknown
villian has not raised flop, or turn
you cant see what worse hands he would call with, but i cant see what better hands he could have?
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

Well people don't fold top pair, flush/straight/trips are very unlikely, seems like an easy value bet to me. I'd bet half pot
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

40-75, basically as much as you think he'll call. I prefer smaller bets in this spot, because no one with a worst pair that gets here can ever fold for like 45-50. Rest of the hand is fine, and I like your bet sizing.
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

Reason for more on the flop is value (unless 2/3 is your standard then you can ignore, i know its nit picking).

Since you bet the turn with the obvious intention of betting the river (provided it was not a card which would make you feel you are behind villains range), I think $50-60 sounds good. You chose a line stick with it. nh.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

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Reason for more on the flop is value (unless 2/3 is your standard then you can ignore, i know its nit picking).

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This is wrong. You want to bet as much as he will call, and on such a dry board betting too much for value is a common mistake.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

Against the kinds of people I've been playing lately who will get here with KT, I bet 75.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

Yah villain will put you on AK and call with 88 or crap like that plenty here. Bet 1/2 pot and fold to a c/r.
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Old 03-19-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 top pair simple vbet decision

fwiw i bet 60 and he called with QTo. i can't help but wonder how much more value i could have gotten or should be getting in this spot.
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Old 03-19-2007, 08:50 PM
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60-70 sounds about right.
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