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Old 03-14-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 River Descion

Call now, but I'd do something to get money in, other than check-calling, way earlier in the hand. Edit: Didn't see that we were so deep.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 River Descion

I don't think he's barrelling three streets. Explain how's it's different to check/raising the turn and folding to further aggression. This way you can get paid by two pair, and the smaller set?

There are two hands that beat yours, and probably the two pair hands, sets, and overpairs that call a check/raise and fold to river leads.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 River Descion

river is closer to a fold than a raise. easy call, though.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:32 PM
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river is closer to a fold than a raise. easy call, though.

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If it's close it shouldn't be an easy call?
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:39 PM
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This is definitely just a call.. by the time the river comes it seems pretty damn likely that this is AK or QQ, and if it's not... The only hands I can see being able to call a CR is TT, and that's because your line looks so passive/drawy. I don't think you even get value from AA/KK here, so what's the point?

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Well if this true you should be c/ring about 100% of hands here.
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:43 AM
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This is definitely just a call.. by the time the river comes it seems pretty damn likely that this is AK or QQ, and if it's not... The only hands I can see being able to call a CR is TT, and that's because your line looks so passive/drawy. I don't think you even get value from AA/KK here, so what's the point?

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Well if this true you should be c/ring about 100% of hands here.

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Yes. I think you should c/r here. You played the hand so weakly, and a c/r here makes so little sense for any of your legit hands.
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:54 AM
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you shouldda c/r'd the turn...

its impossible to say what you should do now... soooo read dependent... give us anything... (probs call mostly against good tag..)
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:56 AM
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 River Descion

g2cu,

what the hell is all this exploitable stuff? you made some comment earlier about how we "should cr this river every time since villain is folding so much..."

but how often are we getting to this river with a hand that's worth c/r as opposed to c/c (like i think you should have done here). wouldnt we essentially have to be calling down with air in order for your statement to make sense?

i just dont see us ever getting to the river with enough c/r worthy hands for villain's play to ever be exploitable here unless we start making bad call downs with like AQ and think he'll vb/f like aces or something to a raise
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 River Descion

When I first read the post, I thought the decision was between "calling or folding."

Like FWF said, it is suicidal to check-raise here without some crazy history.

As for the exploitation comment, if you keep check-raising river often, villain has to be really bad to keep betting river without the intention of calling a raise. Also, it doesn't matter even if you KNOW he bets-folds one-pair hands on the river because it's hard to accurately estimate the frequency of one-pair hands in his range using the line bet, bet, slight overbet on river on such a board.
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