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Old 03-08-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

You're quite the station. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'd like to hear your thoughts on these.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Mr. Bitel,

I'm not really that concerned with whether you won or lost these hands you results-oriented fish. I was hoping you could clarify your play though; I would have played hands 1 and 3 the same, but hands 2 and 4 I would have played differently.

In hand 2, I'd probably fold the river. Don't you just have a pretty-looking bluff-catcher?

In hand 4, I'd fold the turn. With those stats, Villain probably isn't waking up here with a semibluff IMO.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

redd,

obv I'll chime in with my thoughts. Gonna wait for a few more replies 1st tho
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Won 1/4, lost 2/3.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Lost
Won
Won
Won
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

won
won
lost
lost

i enjoy the just calling down some of the hands, giving them the opportunity to bluff. I think hand 1 we picked off a bluff
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:19 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

please can people give reasons rather than just giving numbers
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Hands 1 and 2 are quite similar in that you invite the bluff on the River by appearing weak. I quite like the line - you won both.

Hands 3 you lost, but you have to call because of his huge range.

Hand 4. Folding the turn is probably too weak. The River I'm not sure, but I think you lost.

So:
Hand 1 Won
Hand 2 Won
Hand 3 Lost
Hand 4 Lost (anybody had that combination yet?)
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

1: Won, he won't play that many real hands this way + there's draws

2: Lost, just feels wrong, such a dry board and lots of people give up (especially given the paired board + T making it less likely that you will fold an ace), you only beat a float + double barrel in a bad spot for a double barrel.

3. Won cause fish + set = allin (although you posting it makes me think you lost this time)

4. Lost, unlikely he's bluffing here with that bet-sizing, you don't beat much that c/cs the flop, would be weird for him to bet a worse ace this way. Also yo have a ten which lowers straight draw chances
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:39 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Reasons should be obvious. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

H1: he will rr most decent kings a lot pf, will aise most 2pair+ hands on the flop, and will float a lot. Bet sizing looks potimised for fe.

H2: He knows you has an A, doesn't expect you to fold and is sizing his bets to maximise his value from a calldown.

H3: Just experience tells me that this is a huge hand almost all the time. Probably a str8 or backdoor flush.

H4: He is so fos when he leads the turn. Also <1/2 pot river bets are sooo often bluffs from donks.
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