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Old 03-07-2007, 07:01 AM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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I find this post to be utterly ridiculous. I am running at 2.1ptbb/100 @ the 400 since the legislation through 400k hands, and I've had a 100k hand break even streak which lasted the entire month of Dec, and I had a 50k hand breakeven streak which lasted from Jan 3 till Jan 20-something. By no means am I saying I'm one of the best @ the 2/4 limit, there are several other 2+2ers who I'd consider to be better then I am that play that level, but this does not mean that I'm not a "good" player @ that level. I have never played with you personally, nor have I ever watched you play, and you may be, and probably are better then I am @ poker, but with that being said, your estimate that everyone who goes through 100k hand breakeven stretches is "terrible" is simply out of touch with reality.
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:07 AM
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whats with all the random nobodies offering coaching these days

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They charge less?
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:09 AM
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you get what you pay for
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:19 AM
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I have read about a number of well-known 2+2ers going through long-term (100k+ hands) breakeven or losing streaks. Without sounding like too much of a dick, I honestly believe that most of these players simply are not very talented poker players.

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Yeah, I had an 100K breakeven stretch ~6 months ago. I certainly wasn't a 5PTBB/100 winner in my games at that time or anything, but I was definately a winner - probably in the 1.5-2.0 range. It can (will) definately happen if your winrate is in that range.
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:35 AM
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At all of these stakes (and especially 5/10NL), there are still a large number of simply terrible players. At least once a session I will review a hand where someone stacked off to me with an absolutely indefensible play.


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either you're running good or my game selection sucks
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:51 AM
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you get what you pay for

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indeed
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:54 AM
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either you're running good or my game selection sucks


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Hmmmm.
I dont know about Stars but at Party donks are all around even at 10/20 and at FTP you have those guys with names in red...
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:02 AM
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cliff notes: Poker is hard. Only the best players win.


Still, interesting and well written post.
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:09 AM
DLizzle DLizzle is offline
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if you play on Stars or Full Tilt a large downswing/breakeven stretch is inevitable. If you play some where with a little better game selection, it is not possible unless you suck. I found this out the hard way, though I was playing pretty bad on FTP.

I don't understand something about the OP though. If games are tougher, shouldn't some people be justified in quitting? If they were a small winner before, now they will be losing without really adjusting their games, which they may be unable to do effectively.

Also, your thoughts about people who have played 100k+ hands at one level being advantaged over those who have played 50k hands at multiple levels while moving up I think makes 0 sense.

That said, I basically agree with you and have already been working hard to improve and plan on playing online for a long time.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:37 AM
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excellent post, gman
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