Player shows one card during the hand. What now?

[TomBrooks]

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In a cash ring game, you can play with your card(s) exposed for the whole hand if you want. You can also state your card(s) and either be lying or telling the truth, it doesn't matter.

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Not even close.
The "one player to a hand" rule prohibits all of the following:
-- advising about the possible holdings of other players
-- advising about one's own possible holding
-- advising about the possibilities presented by the board
Among other things. q/q

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Quads,
The first and third items you mention don't have have anything to do with showing one or both your cards.

As far as stating what cards you have, since you might be lying, you are therefore not "advising about one's own possible holding" because no one knows if what you are saying is true.

I think the statement you quoted is not incorrect in any way.

[Rottersod]

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In a cash ring game, you can play with your card(s) exposed for the whole hand if you want. You can also state your card(s) and either be lying or telling the truth, it doesn't matter.

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Not even close.

The "one player to a hand" rule prohibits all of the following:

-- advising about the possible holdings of other players
-- advising about one's own possible holding
-- advising about the possibilities presented by the board

Among other things.


q/q

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To quote you: "Not even close". You've completely mixed up your rules and your interpretations of said rules. When you are heads up in a hand in a cash game you can do whatever you want: expose card(s), state your hand or lie about your hand, interpret the board, etc, etc, etc. In a casino you may be given a warning by the floor after the hand is done asking you to not expose your cards but it is a very casino dependent rule and most good ones won't care. In no case will your hand be declared dead. At a home game it shouldn't even matter.

[Rottersod]

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Be aware that some places/tourneys use the rule that the hand is dead, but this appears to be the less preferred rule.

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That's a possibility since I haven't played in every casino but in all the tourneys I've played live (I would guess between 100 - 150, all in Los Angeles) I have never encountered that ruling.

[psandman]

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In no case will your hand be declared dead.

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And I have seen players trying to expose their cards have their hands killed, because they exposed them and didn't keep them under control and the dealer sees it as a face-up muck. If you are going to expose our cards it best if you keep them protected and tell the dealer what you are doing.

[Colima420]

In a cash game, you can show one card or both at any time. If you do this though, you have to show the card(s) to everyone in the hand.

Be aware that although this is valid in a cash game, it is still considered a breach of etiquette .

In my opinion, it is best not to do this at all. If you have to do it once, no problem, just don't over do it.

As others have said, in a tournament things are different. It is prohibited to show cards. Most casinos will give a penalty, but some will declare the hand dead inmediately.

Colima420

[TomBrooks]

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Be aware that although this is valid in a cash game, it is still considered a breach of etiquette.

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Would it be considered a breach of etiquette if were heads up? I can't imagine why it would be.

[crookdimwit]

I guess it still runs the risk of confusion, since it's an unusual play. After getting some responses here and doing my homework, I emailed everyone at my home game before last Thursday night's action to resolve the matter and establish our rule (allowed)...

Anyway, DESPITE that email, and even discussion about it while people were getting ready to start, it still caused a problem in a hand a few hours later. One player, perhaps inspired by rule, was considering how to hand a river bet by an opponent, he stared down the opponent, then asked "I can show my cards, right? That's the rule?" I said yes.

So he flips his cards and stands up to try and see how the opponent reacted. The opponent, somehow oblivious to the conversation, immediately turned his cards over as well, assuming it was a call... (So much for getting everyone on the same page -- I blame beer)

So another dispute ensues... We resolve it calmly, but if nothing else, it goes to show that hand-showing can be +EV for creating drama...

[Lottery Larry]

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So he flips his cards and stands up to try and see how the opponent reacted. The opponent, somehow oblivious to the conversation, immediately turned his cards over as well, assuming it was a call... (So much for getting everyone on the same page -- I blame beer)

So another dispute ensues... We resolve it calmly, but if nothing else, it goes to show that hand-showing can be +EV for creating drama...

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This is why I believe the showing of cards shouldn't be allowed in a home game. If you'd allow it in a casino, with a dealer to stay on top of the action and control things somewhat, you might have an argument in favor... but again, it can cause unnecessary drama.

I'm a "ban the showing" advocate.

[Stone Dealer 1]

Hi, I am a certified dealer. Rule states, In tournament play, any cards exposed at any time, your hand is dead. Also in tourney play if you even talk about your hand while in play, it is dead. As for live action. If you talk about your hand you will receive a warning. It is also considered very bad edicat. If your hand is exposed with more than 2 players in the action here is how it goes, if your hand is exposed before any action , it is still live but must be exposed to all. If exposed after any action , it is dead. IF you are heads up you CAN expose your hand in live action only. This is because you are not influencing any other action.

[pfapfap]

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So another dispute ensues... We resolve it calmly,

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What was the resolution?