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Old 02-26-2007, 02:10 PM
skegvegaspoker skegvegaspoker is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

In hindsight, I think turn push is good. Nothing that is folding to a turn raise will fold to a turn push I dont think. Push would be just over a PSB and a raise to $120 or whatever is so similar to a push that I don't think it matters which we choose.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

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I think the only hand we beat that calls is AsA...not my style

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You are kidding right? a 50/10, never ever ever ever ever will fold AA, ever. The board could be KsQsJs5s2h and they would call. I think the right line here is to raise more on the flop and push the turn, and then punch a hole through a wall when you saw the river..
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

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I think the only hand we beat that calls is AsA...not my style

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You are kidding right? a 50/10, never ever ever ever ever will fold AA, ever. The board could be KsQsJs5s2h and they would call. I think the right line here is to raise more on the flop and push the turn, and then punch a hole through a wall when you saw the river..

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agreed...I think you are called by a large range here, which you are way ahead of.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

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This is AA-JJ here always right?

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no, sometimes it's 9x. but calling the river would be terrible. and raise a lot more on the turn. you're giving a lot of very cheap outs to the As, even 9x, etc.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

He's probably not 3 betting lightly given that he only raises 10% of his hands, so I think his range is JJ+, AK, AQ. With that action, I would like a turn push and expect to be called alot against this guy.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

Note: 3-bet sizing preflop from a fish leads me towards AA-KK range.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

40 on flop, shove turn
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

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ouch. yeah fold.

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Yikes, horrible river. Another 3 or the As is the only real danger card for you on the river, and it got there.

Have to fold. I think you're turn play is perfect. You definitely didn't want to push him out of a hand you're going to beat 90% of the time.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:38 PM
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I think you're turn play is perfect. You definitely didn't want to push him out of a hand you're going to beat 90% of the time.

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I think it is far from perfect. We can bet far more on the turn for value.
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Old 02-26-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Flop flush but the worst river card ever.

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I think you're turn play is perfect. You definitely didn't want to push him out of a hand you're going to beat 90% of the time.

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I think it is far from perfect. We can bet far more on the turn for value.

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Agreed...against this type I like a shove for value. Also, we're like 75-25 against AA-QQ w/ a spade...and a 50/10 just about never folds here w/ any of those.
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