Crticism of the PPA and its effects - Page 2

1p0kerboy · #11 02-23-2007, 11:28 AM

The PPA represents...members of the PPA. It's that simple. Why on Earth would they care about the views of anyone else?

If you want the PPA to change maybe you should join and become one of its leaders?

The reason is that you don't want the PPA to change. You are obseesed with the drama associated with finding flaws and pointing out defects.

1p0kerboy · #12 02-23-2007, 11:32 AM

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So your position is that you don't know if there is anything to legitimately criticize, yet would assume axiomatically that any such criticism was illegitimate? That is a view shared by many other scared and unknowledgeable posters who don't consider the long term effects of the issues at hand.

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It is a fact that the PPA is doing more good than harm. Because this is the case, I'm not going to impede that especially if I know that I'm doing more harm than good by doing so.

And FWIW there are many ways better ways for you to have concerns addressed than the fashion of which you are choosing.

BluffTHIS! · #13 02-23-2007, 11:33 AM

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The PPA represents...members of the PPA.

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Actually that is a point of contention in these debates, i.e. whose interests the PPA really represents, the majority of poker playing members, or the narrower and in many cases different, interests of poker and sports sites and media. I suggest that if you are going to trash talk me that you actually take the time to read some of the relevant discussions in other threads and educate yourself about the issues before you make a bigger fool of yourself. Note I am only saying "fool" not because you disagree with my views, but because you are doing so without being knowledgeable about the relevant issues as are the more regular readers of this forum.

BluffTHIS! · #14 02-23-2007, 11:36 AM

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It is a fact that the PPA is doing more good than harm.

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That is not a certainty, but the subject of debate, now that we are post-IUGEA, although it might have been a valid statement beforehand. And if the PPA has as a goal, the legalization of online sports betting along with poker, the opposite is dead certain. Which is why some of us have been trying to get them to clearly state what all of their goals are.

hollaballa · #15 02-23-2007, 11:37 AM

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You are obseesed with the drama associated with finding flaws and pointing out defects.

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Seriously. Do you have a job dude?

I understand if you don't want to support the PPA. I understand you saying they aren't being as transparent as you like. But man, give it a freak'n rest.

The PPA is not going to tell you wants going on everyday. The PPA is not going to do things exactly how you want them to. If that pisses you off, then don't join. You don't have to spend 600 posts a month letting everyone know you don't like the PPA. Start another organization and be done with it.

Jesus. As much trash as you've talked about the magazines and poker sites, please don't let any of these people get ahold of your real name.

I'd love for someone at Cardplayer to run into you at the world series or something, that would be awesome.

Are you going to be at the world series this year? I'd love for you to run your mouth like this in person.

1p0kerboy · #16 02-23-2007, 11:38 AM

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Actually that is a point of contention in these debates, i.e. whose interests the PPA really represents, the majority of poker playing members, or the narrower and in many cases different, interests of poker and sports sites and media. I suggest that if you are going to trash talk me that you actually take the time to read some of the relevant discussions in other threads and educate yourself about the issues before you make a bigger fool of yourself. Note I am only saying "fool" not because you disagree with my views, but because you are doing so without being knowledgeable about the relevant issues as are the more regular readers of this forum.

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If the point of contention is who's interests are being represented then perhaps you should make a thread on that.

But members of the PPA seem to be okay with how they are handling things.

Once again, if you don't like how things are being done then fine. Don't sign up. But to sit here and make obsessive post after post is a little silly.

BluffTHIS! · #17 02-23-2007, 11:44 AM

1) I have made threads on that, which you would know if you were actually knowledgeable about the issues you are spouting off on.

2) Yes many unknowledgeable players and scared players are OK with things. But many of us here aren't, and that includes insiders in the industry and others who could be a significant resource for the PPA's efforts if they condescended to use them.

3) I post criticisms because I do care about legalizing online poker and would like the PPA to be an *effective* proponent of same.

4) I'm done arguing with you simply because you don't know enough about the relevant issues at hand for it to be productive. You get the last word.

BluffTHIS! · #18 02-23-2007, 11:47 AM

hollaballa,

If you had read my postings in other forums in the past, you would know that I care absolutely nothing about the opinions, strategy related or otherwise, of attention whore tourney players or cash game run hot lags and their fanboys.

1p0kerboy · #19 02-23-2007, 11:52 AM

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4) I'm done arguing with you simply because you don't know enough about the relevant issues at hand for it to be productive. You get the last word.

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Last word:
If you want the PPA to make changes which would be better than the status quo, spend time discussing these issues (instead of your own agenda) and do so in a positive light.

Also, you will notice that I'm not arguing with you about the "key points" both beacause they weren't brought up here by you and I am less knowledgeable. If I were to do so I would definitely research and educate myself first.

#2 and #3 are good points and perhaps should have been brought up in this thread first (instead of what YOU want the PPA to do for YOU)

Good luck.

hollaballa · #20 02-23-2007, 11:53 AM

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hollaballa,

If you had read my postings in other forums in the past, you would know that I care absolutely nothing about the opinions, strategy related or otherwise, of attention whore tourney players or cash game run hot lags and their fanboys.

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ok great. I'm just telling you you've made yourself pretty unwelcome a lot of places.

Just don't let anyone get ahold of your real name and keep having fun making 50 posts a day to your buds on 2+2.

Imagine, big WSOP party this year....BluffThis walks in....how long before he's escorted out of the party?