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Old 02-22-2007, 01:06 PM
jsnipes28 jsnipes28 is offline
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If you have position on a bad player I also don't think doing this when deep, say over 200bb, is bad either because if you have a good read on your opponents lines you are oftentimes able to get the pot headsup almost always and can easily control pot size+ have the initiative and of course the ability to win a big pot.

I remember a long time ago at a full 6max table 2/4 where both me and villain had around 250bb+ that every single time I chose to play a hand and he had opened to 16 I was making it 35 or so just to get the pot headsup and be able to dictate the flow. I am not sure how well this would work now at higher limits bc of the likelihood that good players would pick up on it and start 4b u cold or calling ur 3b really light, but whatever just an idea. Oh and it was extremely effective that one time.
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Old 02-22-2007, 01:10 PM
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lolz

In response to the OP, I think there is no problem with this but it can be a little transparent. I would raise in this spot to $100, so 2.5x. Obv they don't have the implied odds, against most short stacks they could shove pre and if they flop any sort of pair / draw they could get it all in.
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:14 PM
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id make it 110 here if were raising. its the minimum such that the next sensible raise is a push from your opponent.

if they call it leaves them behind with a PSB, which is good.
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:38 PM
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id make it 110 here if were raising. its the minimum such that the next sensible raise is a push from your opponent.

if they call it leaves them behind with a PSB, which is good.

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why does it matter how many bets it takes them to get all in?

We just want them to get all in with nothing but still make them play incorrectly.
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:00 PM
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there is a time and a place for this: the time is against bad players and the place is at a table with bad players
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Old 02-22-2007, 03:43 PM
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Also, making it 400 straight can't be that bad. Short stack will call getting 'odds' and someone behind might decide to push in with TT or something.
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Old 02-22-2007, 05:48 PM
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how bout the same situation but with AK this time?
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:03 PM
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the problem is you see retards calling off half their stack preflop then check fold when they miss the flop
get as much in now as possible
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:04 PM
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id make it 110 here if were raising. its the minimum such that the next sensible raise is a push from your opponent.

if they call it leaves them behind with a PSB, which is good.

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why does it matter how many bets it takes them to get all in?

We just want them to get all in with nothing but still make them play incorrectly.

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hmmmm. the way i see it, the fewer streets they have to play post-flop, the fewer opportunities they have to make a correct (re. FTOP) decision, i.e. fold.
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:10 PM
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the problem is you see retards calling off half their stack preflop then check fold when they miss the flop
get as much in now as possible

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Exactly. Pot committment doesn't occur to them.
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