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Old 02-21-2007, 06:28 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: 40/80 vs Daver

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Not sure if you are asking because you are worried about your hand or you are worried about him folding. I think you have the nuts fwiw.

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do you think we are ever ahead after Dave 4 bets the flop?

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Yes, and if the answer is no you aren't 3 betting the flop enough. Dave should have to 4 bet QJ here sometimes or else we are going to be much easier to play against when we have AK high etc. Put another way, if Dave can correctly get away from top pair here because we 3 bet the flop that's a huge win for him and his cost of checkraising the flop against an overpair is cheap compared to the alternative.

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Old 02-21-2007, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 vs Daver

Bet and call down a checkraise. It's a cooler if he flopped a set, but I'm not laying down top 2 on a rainbow board in a 6-handed game. Make this a 9-handed game and maybe I think about it.
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 vs Daver

bet and if you get checkraised, he has 33/77 here but i would never fold against an asian.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 vs Daver

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Not sure if you are asking because you are worried about your hand or you are worried about him folding. I think you have the nuts fwiw.

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do you think we are ever ahead after Dave 4 bets the flop?

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Yes, and if the answer is no you aren't 3 betting the flop enough. Dave should have to 4 bet QJ here sometimes or else we are going to be much easier to play against when we have AK high etc. Put another way, if Dave can correctly get away from top pair here because we 3 bet the flop that's a huge win for him and his cost of checkraising the flop against an overpair is cheap compared to the alternative.

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Given that there was a third guy in on the flop that was a calling station Dave knows I'm likely to be getting out of line less as well as I know the same about Dave. So that being said I really don't think Dave is 4 betting with QJ/QT very often on the flop. Also, KQ is raising preflop and maybe even QJ.
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 vs Daver

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Also, KQ is raising preflop and maybe even QJ.

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77?
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:17 PM
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Also, KQ is raising preflop and maybe even QJ.

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77?

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probably as well.
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:23 PM
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Easy bet? easy check? doesn't matter?

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It doesn't matter...really.
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 vs Daver

Woah Hobbs

First off) where've you been?
Second of all)Looks like Dave has Q7s or the like, I think you need to bet here. If he has 33 then god bless but against a crazy asian that knows you know that he knows that you know that he knows who you are, I'm going to showdown.

If you check the turn, and he bets a rag river, are you raising?
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:34 PM
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What? DaveR is an Asian? I have to reread every post about him
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:26 PM
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bet and if you get checkraised, he has 33/77 here but i would never fold against an asian.

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