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Old 02-20-2007, 11:56 PM
Msgr. Martinez Msgr. Martinez is offline
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because it would expose it to a counter-suit for corporate spying with a much greater potential liability

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This doesn't make any sense, if the liability for spying is high then any company who caught a spy wouldn't kill them, they would use him as evidence and sue the pants off the other guys.

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Has the company who sent the spy implicitly consented to being haled into court?
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Old 02-21-2007, 04:52 PM
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Will there be a great fnancial incentive in AC world to assasinate corporate spies in order to significantly raise the price of stealing proprietary information?

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Joke-thread?

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Just trying to identify targets of assasinations, which will be economically viable and market-driven after AC transformation occurs, so that I can avoid being in the target groups. So far, it appears, that bums will not be routinely assasinated because people have conscience and wouldn't do it and there would be no market catering to the more twisted psychopaths' desires (even though movies like "Hostel" make me think otherwise).
I have not yet explored the high risk group of talented corporate officers who are implementing brilliant ideas to increase their company's market share, who would be a target of purely profit-driven assasinations.
Bystanders in corporate drive-by shootings most likely will be random, but hopefully, the companies will find ways to minimize bystander casualties.
Lets brainstorm other risk groups which will be economically advantageous for corporations to terminate with extreme predjudice. Labor organizers perhaps. Members and leaders of some cults. Arbitrageurs who are very likely to rule against them. Muck-racker investigative journalists. Slacker, thieving employees who are breaking company rules, blow whistles to the media and otherwise refusing to follow orders (just to teach a lesson). Child prodigys who are unlikely to join the corporation but very likely to be working for a competitor. Street criminals. Enterpising scientists, making revolutionary products in their garage, which threaten the bottom line. Anything that threatens the bottom line, really. For a corporation, profits are always the first priority. The weak-willed who refuse to stoop to these methods when they are profitable will be outcompeted. So, the only question is, when will the methods of torture and assasination be profitable. My guess is that they will find a wide variety of profitable applications.
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:41 PM
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The incentive to simply bump off the competition would be similar to a street gang's, because both are doing business outside the rule of law. A street gang acts as if it is above or beyond the law, and a corporation in ACland would have similar reasons for doing likewise, depending on available resources to defend against retaliation.
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:45 PM
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The incentive to simply bump off the competition would be similar to a street gang's, because both are doing business outside the rule of law. A street gang acts as if it is above or beyond the law, and a corporation in ACland would have similar reasons for doing likewise, depending on available resources to defend against retaliation.

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Street gangs are excluded from peaceful arbitration, which is orders of magnitude less expensive than violence. Otherwise, explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:55 PM
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Will there be a great fnancial incentive in AC world to assasinate corporate spies in order to significantly raise the price of stealing proprietary information? The company for which the murdered spy was working would not be very interested in conducting a public investigation, and certainly not in bringing a wrongful death lawsuit, because it would expose it to a counter-suit for corporate spying with a much greater potential liability. The spy's family would presumably lack the resources to investigate the murder, if the company arranging a hit hires competent people.

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So you're saying that in ACland *business* espionage would be too risky and they wouldn't be able to hire anyone to do it? :P

(*business* because there are no corporations in AC)
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:56 PM
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I was just trying to explore, if professional assassins and counterintelligence agents specializing in torture will still be in demand. Apparently, their job security will not suffer when the switch to AC is made.

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If spying is too dangerous, why would these people be needed?
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:04 PM
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The incentive to simply bump off the competition would be similar to a street gang's, because both are doing business outside the rule of law. A street gang acts as if it is above or beyond the law, and a corporation in ACland would have similar reasons for doing likewise, depending on available resources to defend against retaliation.

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Street gangs are excluded from peaceful arbitration, which is orders of magnitude less expensive than violence.

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Excluded? What means of peaceful arbitration would happen in ACland that street gangs can't also arrange?

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Otherwise, explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Because there is a rule of law being maintained by the state.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:30 PM
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explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Coke and Pepsi have the superior violence of the government on their side. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:40 PM
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explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Coke and Pepsi have the superior violence of the government on their side. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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And that's a good thing.
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:04 PM
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explain why the bloods and crips aren't using their superior violence-based business model and outcompeting coke and pepsi in the soda market.

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Coke and Pepsi have the superior violence of the government on their side. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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And that's a good thing.

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And who's getting taxed for it? Coke, Pepsi and other corporations or "the people"? Anyway, I wasn't agreeing with you, I was simply pointing out an obvious flaw in Pvn's post.
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