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#11
02-21-2007, 08:36 PM
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Re: Help the Enemy.....please?
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A common sidebet in BJ is the "Royal Match", where a player may place a side bet and recieve 3:1 on his bet if his two hole cards are of the same suit and 10:1 if his cards are the King and Queen of the same suit (have also seen a variation that pays 2.5:1 for suited and 15:1 for the KQ suited). A couple of my degenerate gambler friends love playing this. [/ QUOTE ] The local Indian hellhole here used to run Lucky Ladies. Any 20 paid 4 to 1, suited 20 paid 9 to 1, identical 20 paid 19 to 1, and QhQh paid something like 1000 to 1. I haven't done the math, but I believe it'd still be -EV with blackjack pushing the side bet. Your targeted idiots would probably enjoy this even if it were made a mandatory $1 on each hand. 
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#14
02-22-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: Help the Enemy.....please?
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The local Indian hellhole here used to run Lucky Ladies. Any 20 paid 4 to 1, suited 20 paid 9 to 1, identical 20 paid 19 to 1, and QhQh paid something like 1000 to 1. I haven't done the math, but I believe it'd still be -EV with blackjack pushing the side bet. Your targeted idiots would probably enjoy this even if it were made a mandatory $1 on each hand. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, this is the side bet that I was thinking of. As someone else mentioned, Lucky Ladies and Royal Match are both trademarked, so there is a licensing fee. I don't think the fee is very high relative to the house edge, since both of these side bets are very popular with casinos. Another one is over/under, where the player makes a side bet that his first two cards will total either over or under 13. House wins on all totals of exactly 13, which are very common.
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#15
02-22-2007, 11:24 PM
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Re: Help the Enemy.....please?
I once blackjack that allowed you to lock up a win if you were dealt 20. If you would take half the bet you wouldn't have to risk losing. That is if you bet $10 and get 20 you can have $5 instead of seeing if you win or lose the $10 bet.
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#16
02-22-2007, 11:27 PM
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Re: Help the Enemy.....please?
Sort of reverse-surrender? (ie get paid half your bet and muck your hand)
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#18
02-22-2007, 11:58 PM
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Re: Help the Enemy.....please?
how about a sidebet where you place bets according to how many hands you will win in a row. in front of each player are 4 squares (2x, 3x, 4x, 5x)
2-in-a-row pays 2:1 3-in-a-row pays 4:1 4-in-a-row pays 8:1 5-in-a-row pays 20:1
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#19
02-23-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: Help the Enemy.....please?
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how about a sidebet where you place bets according to how many hands you will win in a row. in front of each player are 4 squares (2x, 3x, 4x, 5x) 2-in-a-row pays 2:1 3-in-a-row pays 4:1 4-in-a-row pays 8:1 5-in-a-row pays 20:1 [/ QUOTE ] The trick to a good side bet (for the casino) is to have a payout structure that is a bit complicated so that it seems to offer a roughly fair bet, but really has a big house edge. It is also important to have big return possibilities, so that the average player thinks they can hit it big if they just get "lucky". This bet does both of these. However, this bet would require some complicated tracking to remember the current win/loss streaks for each of the seven players at the table. You might be able to automate a tracking system at each player spot or something to accomplish this task.
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#20
02-24-2007, 01:59 AM
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Re: Help the Enemy.....please?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] how about a sidebet where you place bets according to how many hands you will win in a row. in front of each player are 4 squares (2x, 3x, 4x, 5x) 2-in-a-row pays 2:1 3-in-a-row pays 4:1 4-in-a-row pays 8:1 5-in-a-row pays 20:1 [/ QUOTE ] The trick to a good side bet (for the casino) is to have a payout structure that is a bit complicated so that it seems to offer a roughly fair bet, but really has a big house edge. It is also important to have big return possibilities, so that the average player thinks they can hit it big if they just get "lucky". This bet does both of these. However, this bet would require some complicated tracking to remember the current win/loss streaks for each of the seven players at the table. You might be able to automate a tracking system at each player spot or something to accomplish this task. [/ QUOTE ] This is called the Streak Bet and is already in use. The payouts are much better then what you have listed, but the house edge is still huge. The casinos that spread it use a different layout that is very easy to track each players streak. I'll try to find a picture.
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