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#11
02-20-2007, 10:25 AM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
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... if he just calls you can start to put him on lower pockets or AQ / AK hands. [/ QUOTE ] At 1.83% pfr, I'd think that the chances of him having low pockets or AQ here is approximately zero. 
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#13
02-20-2007, 11:30 AM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
Reraise preflop to 4. If he pushes then you are gone as he DOES have AA or KK. The thing is the 3bet followed by a cbet will probably make him throw away his KK. How you have played it he could have 1010, JJ, QQ, KK, AA.
If he pushes/raises your hand is probably dominated, and wait again to get paid off. If he does not push and just calls then _you_ have the momentum and fold equity in this hand and _you_ learn a lot more. If you did such on this hand and checked behind on the flop and bet the 2nd Jack, this guy would be folding AA/KK or anything thats got no Jack in it. Thats how I'd play the hand.
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#14
02-20-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
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The thing is the 3bet followed by a cbet will probably make him throw away his KK. [/ QUOTE ] Really? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#15
02-20-2007, 11:53 AM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
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Reraise preflop to 4. If he pushes then you are gone as he DOES have AA or KK. The thing is the 3bet followed by a cbet will probably make him throw away his KK. How you have played it he could have 1010, JJ, QQ, KK, AA. [/ QUOTE ] Does it change the equation if I think he's very unlikely to have TT, and probably not even JJ? At that point, aren't I just paying for information that I already have (i.e. he has a big hand that he likes a lot), and losing my chance to hit a set?
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#16
02-20-2007, 11:58 AM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
Read is only on 160 hands. That's nothing. Villain could well be a TAG who is running cold. Still, if you feel your read is good, call preflop, call flop, raise turn is good (because it gets him to stop), and you must check behind on the river (because no hand you're ahead of, save TT, is calling you).
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#17
02-20-2007, 12:39 PM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
um. reraise pre. i like your flop call and turn raise but raise alittle more, make him pay for his draw/see where you stand. check the river. you dont get called by a worse hand here. IF he does have a big hand he's prob expecting/hoping that his check on the river will make you bet given your turn raise. you get 0 value out of a bet on the river. besides getting yourself in a horrible spot if he c/r.
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#18
02-20-2007, 12:44 PM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
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make him pay for his draw [/ QUOTE ] What possible drawing hand could a 1.83% pfr UTG have here? Maybe AdKd?
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#19
02-20-2007, 12:45 PM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
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Read is only on 160 hands. That's nothing. Villain could well be a TAG who is running cold. [/ QUOTE ] True. Tough to get significantly more hands on guys at this level, though. [ QUOTE ] Still, if you feel your read is good, call preflop, call flop, raise turn is good (because it gets him to stop), and you must check behind on the river (because no hand you're ahead of, save TT, is calling you). [/ QUOTE ] But does a hand I'm behind fold? I'm telling him I have a J, can I make a bet that makes him believe me?
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#20
02-20-2007, 12:58 PM
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Re: 25NL -- QQ vs UTG raise from mouse, how\'s my line?
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[ QUOTE ] make him pay for his draw [/ QUOTE ] What possible drawing hand could a 1.83% pfr UTG have here? Maybe AdKd? [/ QUOTE ] sry skipped over that part. mostly seeing where you stand.
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