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02-19-2007, 03:36 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
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[ QUOTE ] I think an issue that is confusing the OP is that Villain played the hand so horribly. [/ QUOTE ] Why is everyone so shocked and ready to call this guy a fish b/c he has 3-pair? Not saying he played it right, but he played it better than if he had called here with a flush. Any flush. [/ QUOTE ] That's not necessarily true I don't think. If he's familar with this game and people commonly (x%) run the naked ace bluff with multiple barrels or people are willing to ignore the fact that someone has a flush, there are probably x-values where your statement isn't true. Also headsup the chance that someone has the flush is low (before betting helps define ranges). 
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#12
02-19-2007, 03:40 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
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Villain is a fish for calling a preflop raise with K43x. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure about that, it maybe be common for this level. I'm not about ready to call the OP a fish for raising with AA99 from the blinds, while that'd be rather pointless at a 9-handed microlimit table it may be the norm here.
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#14
02-19-2007, 07:52 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think an issue that is confusing the OP is that Villain played the hand so horribly. [/ QUOTE ] Why is everyone so shocked and ready to call this guy a fish b/c he has 3-pair? Not saying he played it right, but he played it better than if he had called here with a flush. Any flush. [/ QUOTE ] That's not necessarily true I don't think. If he's familar with this game and people commonly (x%) run the naked ace bluff with multiple barrels or people are willing to ignore the fact that someone has a flush, there are probably x-values where your statement isn't true. Also headsup the chance that someone has the flush is low (before betting helps define ranges). [/ QUOTE ] Um, it doesn't really matter how often the person is running the naked ace bluff. If his range is naked-ace or the nuts, then calling with 3 pair is better than calling with a flush. Calling with a flush would be better iff there's a good chance opp might have a set or a lower flush.
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02-19-2007, 07:56 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think an issue that is confusing the OP is that Villain played the hand so horribly. [/ QUOTE ] Why is everyone so shocked and ready to call this guy a fish b/c he has 3-pair? Not saying he played it right, but he played it better than if he had called here with a flush. Any flush. [/ QUOTE ] Villain was about 25% on the flop. OP could have had AsAxXX with no flush. OP could also have top set. I don't think villain has pot odds to call, but it is reasonably close. Villain is a fish for calling a preflop raise with K43x. [/ QUOTE ] I probably give it up here if I am villain. But it's just ironic that I doubt many here would be surprised if villain had called with a Q-high flush, when that's demonstrably the worse play.
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#16
02-19-2007, 07:58 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
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[ QUOTE ] Villain is a fish for calling a preflop raise with K43x. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure about that, it maybe be common for this level. I'm not about ready to call the OP a fish for raising with AA99 from the blinds, while that'd be rather pointless at a 9-handed microlimit table it may be the norm here. [/ QUOTE ] I'm "about ready" to call you a fish for making this post.
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#17
02-19-2007, 10:52 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
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[ QUOTE ] Villain is a fish for calling a preflop raise with K43x. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure about that, it maybe be common for this level. I'm not about ready to call the OP a fish for raising with AA99 from the blinds, while that'd be rather pointless at a 9-handed microlimit table it may be the norm here. [/ QUOTE ] Not jamming the pot preflop with hero's hand is just criminal heads up, any position.
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#18
02-19-2007, 11:07 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
Hi Pete.
I think the other paradoxical thing is how much better the play is that he was calling the last 1500 and not raising it. If he had been the last raiser it would have been much worse. FWIW, I'm not sure I like the thought of unlimited raises with Hero's hand, as some have suggested. I'm not sure I would even raise a reraise. gl bdd
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#19
02-19-2007, 11:29 PM
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Re: 10-20 PLO 4000 dollar pot. anyone play this different?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Villain is a fish for calling a preflop raise with K43x. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure about that, it maybe be common for this level. I'm not about ready to call the OP a fish for raising with AA99 from the blinds, while that'd be rather pointless at a 9-handed microlimit table it may be the norm here. [/ QUOTE ] Not jamming the pot preflop with hero's hand is just criminal heads up, any position. [/ QUOTE ] I think you need to reraise pot AA99ds from the blinds against multiple limpers. You get a lot of flops where you can play the hand strongly. If you get multiple callers and a bad flop, you really have to fold to any action. Some people raise and overplay the hand postflop, but the mistake is postflop.
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