Make me stop doing this........

[SlackerMcFly]

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You call too much PF facing a raise oop with marginal cards. . Stop trying to make STT poker exciting, .


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FYP

I do this rarely, but enough for it to be a leak. I do this b/c I think I can get away with it enough for it to be profitable once in a while. Oh, and it's fun..... More of a hand-reading exercise than a tournament when I'm sorta tilty.

So, what's your play with a J on the turn and two weaklings checking to you? Share the World Champ love...... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Just dump it PF.

You cannot possibly raise this flop. If you get it all in, you're behind. Keep the pot managable.

Turn, easy c/f.

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I'm not saying he should try to get all in on this flop, because if he succeeds he's behind!

But just calling the flop gets him to a turn, where the pot is big (no longer manageable IMO), yet he doesn't know where he's at.

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so you want to raise the flop for INFORMATION (aka as a bluff)

[TruFloridaGator]

Slacka, STOP DOING THIS!!!!

[DevinLake]

Slacker, I'm not sure I'm understanding exactly what your reads are here.

So, preflop MP could have any Ax. This is a good thing obviously.

But, I think what you're saying is that he'll slow down with a lot of those Ax hands on the turn here? And, because he did not slow down, it's looking a lot more like AT+ or a set?

If he plays this predictable, then I'd fold to his bet on the turn. If he had of checked, I'd probably put in a value raise to cash in on this Ax hands.

Of course, the presence of the BB makes this a little more difficult. But, by your read, it sounds like he's just calling the flop because he has two cards?

[SlackerMcFly]

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But, I think what you're saying is that he'll slow down with a lot of those Ax hands on the turn here? And, because he did not slow down, it's looking a lot more like AT+ or a set?


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Turn was J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] , both checked to me. Neither led the turn, I'm last to act.

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Just dump it PF.

You cannot possibly raise this flop. If you get it all in, you're behind. Keep the pot managable.

Turn, easy c/f.

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I'm not saying he should try to get all in on this flop, because if he succeeds he's behind!

But just calling the flop gets him to a turn, where the pot is big (no longer manageable IMO), yet he doesn't know where he's at.

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so you want to raise the flop for INFORMATION (aka as a bluff)

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I'd rather raise too 400ish and then fold to a push, than having a pot of 610 (790 if BB calls), at which point it's difficult to continue without playing for the entire stack.

[DevinLake]

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But, I think what you're saying is that he'll slow down with a lot of those Ax hands on the turn here? And, because he did not slow down, it's looking a lot more like AT+ or a set?


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Flop was J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] , both checked to me. Neither led the turn, I'm last to act.

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Well, are they both checking two pair or a straight to you, a guy that has not shown any aggression? I doubt it. I'd probably put out a value bet at this point. But, you haven't told us, will they call with a bare A here?

[SlackerMcFly]

Sorry, I edited it. The turn was J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (but you knew what I meant).

They both checked. For sure a straight or two pair, maybe JJ????

MP would still be here with A8, A9 IMHO. BB I'm not sure of, but think he would play a big hand to isolate. His check confused me a lot.

Keep in mind that they are probably as scared of the board as I am here.

The only question now that HERO has played the wrong hand at the wrong time the wrong way....... Check or shove the turn?

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But, I think what you're saying is that he'll slow down with a lot of those Ax hands on the turn here? And, because he did not slow down, it's looking a lot more like AT+ or a set?


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Flop was J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] , both checked to me. Neither led the turn, I'm last to act.

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Well, are they both checking two pair or a straight to you, a guy that has not shown any aggression? I doubt it. I'd probably put out a value bet at this point. But, you haven't told us, will they call with a bare A here?

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ewwww a valuebet?? No, check here always. Probably fold to a riverbet on a blank. Betting cannot be profitable here.

[dirtysanchez]

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Just dump it PF.

You cannot possibly raise this flop. If you get it all in, you're behind. Keep the pot managable.

Turn, easy c/f.

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I'm not saying he should try to get all in on this flop, because if he succeeds he's behind!

But just calling the flop gets him to a turn, where the pot is big (no longer manageable IMO), yet he doesn't know where he's at.

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so you want to raise the flop for INFORMATION (aka as a bluff)

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I'd rather raise too 400ish and then fold to a push, than having a pot of 610 (790 if BB calls), at which point it's difficult to continue without playing for the entire stack.

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i like this line more w/ 72o