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#11
02-18-2007, 04:22 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
is it because the villain has raised the flop with 2 players still yet to act, and hero's hand is likely to be an overpair betting into 3players on the flop (true's range is of course bigger than that, but we don't know villain's perception of true). So villain is likely able to beat that, i.e have a set?
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#12
02-18-2007, 04:28 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
I think you can profitably felt this hand on the flop vs an unknown.
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#13
02-18-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Are these replies for real? Jesus christ, the advice is horrible. [/ QUOTE ] ? [/ QUOTE ]@ the guys saying shove to stack A9 or an overpair. No offense fellas, but that's pretty bad advice. [/ QUOTE ] yeah but what does calling accomplish other than letting worse hands catch up?
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#14
02-18-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Are these replies for real? Jesus christ, the advice is horrible. [/ QUOTE ] ? [/ QUOTE ]@ the guys saying shove to stack A9 or an overpair. No offense fellas, but that's pretty bad advice. [/ QUOTE ] yeah but what does calling accomplish other than letting worse hands catch up? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, calling or raising basically turns your cards face up (unless he thinks you're dumb enough to call with AK) so I prefer reraising just to take it down or hope he gets cute and tries to hunt a bluff. All in isn't a value bet there, though... - C -
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#16
02-18-2007, 04:58 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
shove
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#17
02-18-2007, 05:15 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
I probably don't fold. I think i get it in on the flop b/c he could easily have 78, and if you overshove, looks like you're rele weak, allowing A9 or so to call (very likely in his range). I don't mind calling and getting it on the turn, but u will be lost if the straight gets made with the 5 or the T on turn, or if board pairs. If you suspect villain is capable of bluffing, easiest call ever and c/rai on turn, since no matter what turn is, you really can't allow more free cards.
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#18
02-18-2007, 05:58 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
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yeah but what does calling accomplish other than letting worse hands catch up? [/ QUOTE ] Wow, I didn't expect to hear this from you. I recall you being one to chastise valueless bets. I thought I was the only one who saw merit in protecting your hand and folding out people who will only put more money in if they suck out.
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#19
02-18-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
This is a joke right? It's an obvious fold here guys. Villian cold calls, then he raises your c-bet with TWOOOOOO GUYS BEHIND HIM, you think he's doing that with A9?!
Barrin6 lighting fire
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#20
02-18-2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: KK on dry flop
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This is a joke right? It's an obvious fold here guys. Villian cold calls, then he raises your c-bet with TWOOOOOO GUYS BEHIND HIM, you think he's doing that with A9?! Barrin6 lighting fire [/ QUOTE ] The problem is villian is an unknown and most unknowns are donkeys. Saying that, I don't think you lose much - if anything - by folding.
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