2 commerce hands

[theBruiser500]

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you must be from LA these hands are f'ed up.

hand 1 looks suicidal and in hand 2 you got saved by the river, maybe?

-Jason

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[Maulik]

rbk,

Please explain 1?

[dankhank]

at first i like hand two more because you are almost certainly doing what the opponent doesn't want

but now i like hand one more because it took a lot more effort on your part. they both have decent likelihoods of working.

edit: maybe bet more like 2400 at the end of hand 1, since you don't want him to make a "call and then fold to a bet on the river" play, you want the pot now.

[DeMaci]

Hand 1 looks nice. Hand 2 looks God awful, doesn't seem like he is folding too much here.

[creedofhubris]

Hand 1, I can't follow your thought process on the turn.

hand 2, I have had bad results trying to push people off donk turn bets. Not sure it's worth making a move if you have a gambooly image.

[riverboatking]

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rbk,

Please explain 1?

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ok in hand one this was my thought process:

villian donks turn: any two cards.

i raise flop: hey i have a hand here.

villian 3 bets: ya right dude you will raise here with any two obviously, i can totally blow you off the hand.

me 4 betting: no really i have a full house obv i would never 4 bet bluff.

i was 100% sure villian would fold any K, and also QJ so as long as he didn't have a boat it was gonna work.

and hand 2: when he called me instantly on the turn i was done with the hand, i put him on a baby flush or maaaaaaaaaybe a really weirdly played set, but either way i was done, however once the 4th heart hit i was like [censored] now i have to shove.

in hand 1 he insta shoved and later told me he had TTT.
in hand 2 he tanked for a while, muttered this is a bad call and then called me with 85 no heart.
i wouldn't have minded a call in hand 2 if he called me for the right reason, however it was some dumb old asian dude that was just like doh i have 2pr.

and boosted, i just back in town i was gone for most of last week so we didn't play together.
but if you are around for LAPC i'll say whats up.

[creedofhubris]

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hand 1
i was 100% sure villian would fold any K, and also QJ so as long as he didn't have a boat it was gonna work.

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I don't think villain would put in the 3bet with trips+ unless he was planning on felting, precisely because you are capable of a 4bet bluff.

You guys are deep, and you (rbk) are seemingly given to big moves, so it's a real bad idea for him to reopen the action with a good made hand if he's going to fold to a reraise that might be a bluff.

So I would read his turn 3bet as either a bluff or a monster.

[lapoker17]

you silly lagtard.

[Cali4niaRaisin]

Why are we 3-betting the turn on Hand 1?

[riverboatking]

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Why are we 3-betting the turn on Hand 1?

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ummm cuz we're bluffing? hope my OP didn't mislead anyone, when i said turn brought flush draw, i meant it put two hearts on board not that i picked up a flush draw.