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Old 02-14-2007, 09:24 AM
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You have a good heart FF. I think I would chop it too.
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:51 AM
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if you actually saw hand recovered from muck then maybe give some back, just based on word definitely shouldn't. he probably did have AA in this case, but he could've had 44 or A4, you can't be sure
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:47 AM
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Dude, giving a guy money back because he can't read the board is like giving a guy money back because he played a hand horribly and got stacked. It's not your fault that he can't read the board, which is an incredibly vital poker skill.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:52 AM
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:37 AM
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Dude, giving a guy money back because he can't read the board is like giving a guy money back because he played a hand horribly and got stacked. It's not your fault that he can't read the board, which is an incredibly vital poker skill.

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Old 02-14-2007, 12:11 PM
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No way do you give the money back! I agree with the others...if he played his hand badly would you give his money back? He either thought he was beat, was too tired to see what he had or was just not that smart. What you are supposed to do is flip your cards and take a minute to see what you have and what the other person has. The dealer...if given the opportunity, will let you know who won the hand. It's when people get cute and muck their hands out of anger or fling their cards towards or into the muck that they usually get into trouble. Keeping a cool head when playing is essential. This is not your fault and you should in no way feel bad about keeping the entire pot. JMHO
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:29 PM
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Ok so to put a little twist on it. Say you are the person sitting next to the player about to muck AA there. He says something along the lines of 'I can't believe they didn't hold up again', shows you the AA and waits a second or two to actually muck his hand. You have the time to tell him his hand is good before he throws it away. Do you?

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Unless the guy tables his AA, any comment from another player would violate the "one player per hand" rule.

FF, while the guy may very well had AA and mucked, you don't know that 100% for sure unless you yourself see the hand. This type of situation just opens you up to angle shots later in the session.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:31 PM
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it's not really his fault he isn't that smart - dude can't even speak english... it's racist not to give his money back
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:56 PM
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If you offer him part or a chop, you are agreeing that he did in fact with the hand in question.

I say this is iffy, but since he couldn't read his hand you keep the pot. As another poster said, if he plays bad and gets stacked you dont give him anything, this is just another small component of the game.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:08 PM
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if you actually saw hand recovered from muck then maybe give some back, just based on word definitely shouldn't. he probably did have AA in this case, but he could've had 44 or A4, you can't be sure

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