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Old 02-11-2007, 05:05 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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ugg, what does he push with though, that ur not dominated by?

maybe TT or JJ

but most of time, i think he has AK KK or AA.

It close though with all the money in the pot.

but i dont see how ur ever ahead.

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The fact that he is not ahead does not matter.

He has pot odds to call. He is shaundeeb; people always think that he is making a play, the villains range contains enough hands that Shaun is flipping with to give him enough pot equity for a call.
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Old 02-11-2007, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: AQo battle of the big stacks.

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ugg, what does he push with though, that ur not dominated by?

maybe TT or JJ

but most of time, i think he has AK KK or AA.

It close though with all the money in the pot.

but i dont see how ur ever ahead.

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The fact that he is not ahead does not matter.

He has pot odds to call. He is shaundeeb; people always think that he is making a play

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yeah, but the point is why is the other big stack, gonna [censored] with shaundeeb here, i think he has a monster, and unless hes an aggressive, thinking player, then ur dominated here like 99.9% of time. I just don't think its worth it.
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Old 02-11-2007, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: AQo battle of the big stacks.

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but most of time, i think he has AK KK or AA.

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I disagree. I think QQ+ is very unlikely given that villain just called UTG+1s raise OOP.

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but i dont see how ur ever ahead.


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I think we might be ahead of some of the hands in his range. That is marginal though. Also, as you mentioned, we are getting laid decent odds here.
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Old 02-11-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: AQo battle of the big stacks.

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ugg, what does he push with though, that ur not dominated by?

maybe TT or JJ

but most of time, i think he has AK KK or AA.

It close though with all the money in the pot.

but i dont see how ur ever ahead.

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The fact that he is not ahead does not matter.

He has pot odds to call. He is shaundeeb; people always think that he is making a play, the villains range contains enough hands that Shaun is flipping with to give him enough pot equity for a call.

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yah but that's a 2 sided coin, if he thinks that way he is also more likely to flat call with AA/KK here if he knows me so his range is wider but def more likely to have QQ+ compared to some other person .
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: AQo battle of the big stacks.

seems like after the 2800 reraise the hand plays itself (as deeb mention in explaining the PF reraise size) another play seems to me possibly reraising a smaller amount preflop - around 1800 - that leaves you with more avenues
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:27 AM
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the problem with 1800 is the BS calls calls too much and also the opener can convince himself to call with some hands. The only plus to 1800 is if the UTG +1 shoves it reopens the betting and then BS has to defind his hand PF.
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:36 AM
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no, I think the way you played it makes all the other decisions easier, was just mentioning another possible play
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: AQo battle of the big stacks.

mmmm results?
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:00 AM
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mmmm results?

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Something like...

Shaun went all in with his A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
SB had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

River K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Shaun doubled up and won the tournament.


Flop
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: AQo battle of the big stacks.

He had AKs flop was K107 monotone to my ace turn blank river gave me the nuts.
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