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02-01-2007, 03:13 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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Paluka just said this "Nope. I believe that the only reason anyone believes in God is because they desperately want there to be one." [/ QUOTE ] And the only reason anyone believes there is no God is because they desperately don't want there to be one. The one thing about those who believe in God is that they tend to realize that they are making a leap of faith... the same can't often be said about those that believe in anything other than God (and everyone believes in something). 
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02-01-2007, 03:19 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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And the only reason anyone believes there is no God is because they desperately don't want there to be one. [/ QUOTE ] This is just not true, and to be honest it is a pretty stupid thing to say. Why would anyone not want there to be a God? Every atheist I know would love to have a shot at eternal bliss in heaven.
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02-01-2007, 03:21 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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[ QUOTE ] And the only reason anyone believes there is no God is because they desperately don't want there to be one. [/ QUOTE ] This is just not true, and to be honest it is a pretty stupid thing to say. Why would anyone not want there to be a God? Every atheist I know would love to have a shot at eternal bliss in heaven. [/ QUOTE ] Some people would rather put thier own feeling of intellectual superiority over other humans, in front of anything else.
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02-01-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] And the only reason anyone believes there is no God is because they desperately don't want there to be one. [/ QUOTE ] This is just not true, and to be honest it is a pretty stupid thing to say. Why would anyone not want there to be a God? Every atheist I know would love to have a shot at eternal bliss in heaven. [/ QUOTE ] Some people would rather put thier own feeling of intellectual superiority over other humans, in front of anything else. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that many people do that, but I still find it hard to belive they genuinely don't want there to be a benevolent God.
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02-01-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
How about we go one further and say our biggest flaw is the mind's ability to decieve itself, which the inability to accept the unknown can be lumped in with.
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02-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
Quids - well put. And a very real reason why people out-of-hand dismiss religion / religiosity / "God" etc. For fear of intellectual ridicule.
[ QUOTE ] We suffer such discomfort in these situations, that we grasp for explanations that may not make the most sense, but make us feel the best. [/ QUOTE ] I know many very thoughtful, religious people who are not only torn about their faiths (one in particular is a Phd at MIT, quantum physics) but constantly re-investigating and questioning their belief system. As someone else mentioned believing in a God is a leap of faith: in many ways, the thoughtful religious person is giving up control of his life and putting it in the hands of their God and this belief system without empirical intellectual underpinnings (ie based on faith). Some might see this as cowardly and stupid (acceding agency), others as a courageous act. -Al
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02-01-2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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[ QUOTE ] And the only reason anyone believes there is no God is because they desperately don't want there to be one. [/ QUOTE ] This is just not true, and to be honest it is a pretty stupid thing to say. Why would anyone not want there to be a God? Every atheist I know would love to have a shot at eternal bliss in heaven. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed with Paluka, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a stupid thing to say, more like ignorant. I'd actually like to believe there is a God, but the biggest difference between atheists and religious people is faith. For some people, faith doesn't cut it, for others it's all they need. To get back to the original quote, what's in it for atheists if there is no God? Well, basically what guids wrote, and that we'd be "right" and everyone else would be "wrong." The true question is, how important is it to be right? This is where intellectual superiority creeps in. You can get into a whole other thread about the merits of being right over wrong.
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02-01-2007, 03:33 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] And the only reason anyone believes there is no God is because they desperately don't want there to be one. [/ QUOTE ] This is just not true, and to be honest it is a pretty stupid thing to say. Why would anyone not want there to be a God? Every atheist I know would love to have a shot at eternal bliss in heaven. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed with Paluka, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a stupid thing to say, more like ignorant. I'd actually like to believe there is a God, but the biggest difference between atheists and religious people is faith. For some people, faith doesn't cut it, for others it's all they need. To get back to the original quote, what's in it for atheists if there is no God? Well, basically what guids wrote, and that we'd be "right" and everyone else would be "wrong." The true question is, how important is it to be right? This is where intellectual superiority creeps in. You can get into a whole other thread about the merits of being right over wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Well, basically what guids wrote, and that we'd be "right" and everyone else would be "wrong." The true question is, how important is it to be right? Yes, exactly! With a question as big as this, and the implications surrounding it, we may never know the answer! And if we ever do find out (ie when we die), it may be too late. So whats the point in risking being "wrong"??? Ill tell you what the risk is, the risk is that you wont be able to tell people how right you are.
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02-01-2007, 03:35 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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Yes, exactly! With a question as big as this, and the implications surrounding it, we may never know the answer! And if we ever do find out (ie when we die), it may be too late. So whats the point in risking being "wrong"??? Ill tell you what the risk is, the risk is that you wont be able to tell people how right you are. [/ QUOTE ] You seem to think that saying that you believe in God and believing the God is the same thing. I honestly don't believe in God. Going around telling people I do isn't going to get me into heaven.
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02-01-2007, 03:44 PM
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Re: The Dids theory of human [censored]-upery.
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Agreed with Paluka, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a stupid thing to say, more like ignorant. I'd actually like to believe there is a God, but the biggest difference between atheists and religious people is faith. For some people, faith doesn't cut it, for others it's all they need. [/ QUOTE ] So someone who believes there is a God has a faith and someone who believes there is no God doesn't have a faith?
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