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Old 02-01-2007, 03:04 AM
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what "bluffs" beat me in either hand?



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hand 2: 44, 66, any gutshot he called the flop with that paired

and fwiw i dont think the majority of his range is bluffs in either hand.
why would you call and not raise? honest question
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: a couple of hands where i call guys down with high card

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what "bluffs" beat me in either hand?



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hand 2: 44, 66, any gutshot he called the flop with that paired

and fwiw i dont think the majority of his range is bluffs in either hand.
why would you call and not raise? honest question

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what hand do you think is good enough to just call? 7x? 66? 44?
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: a couple of hands where i call guys down with high card

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H1: fine.

H2: meh, I dont call unless i have seen him peel with high cards or pull this [censored] before. Bluffy or not.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:27 AM
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what hand do you think is good enough to just call? 7x? 66? 44?

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if you're referring to hand 2 then i really think youre beat a lot. the only hand i can see you beating is 68s. i would need at least a 7 and a better read to call.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: a couple of hands where i call guys down with high card

about hand 2:

the thing about hands like these is they're feel plays, which makes me kind of hesitant to post them for analysis. however, i think it's still worthwhile to analyze them to an extent.

in hand 2, i just don't see what he could be making such a big bet with for value. it makes no sense. i actually snap called.

why would he turn a 7 into a bluff on the river? maybe i'm just a station, but i've been looking villains up lately when their lines make no sense, and i think you'd be surprised at how often their hand bears no relation whatsoever to the board.
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:01 AM
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meh, both villains folded.

obviously that doesn't mean either play was +EV, and both were feel plays. but at the same time, i think some of you guys are underusing hand reading -- even against lagfish.
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