Stars $530 Hand Nagging Me

[Bob Loblaw]

now that grafyx converted the hand;

UTG+1 should have checked flop; if checked to again on the turn he can try and take it, but i think you're getting played with a lot on that flop.

After you bet, redeye3030 is definitely NOT FOLDING after putting that much of his stack in, and you're not getting nearly good enough price to draw to your gutshot (your overs are very questionable outs)

[gholizad]

I think the fact that you were playing aggressively makes it more possible for him to put you on a draw and call your push.

[vladzhuk]

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Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t600/t1200
(Ante: t60)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t41246
UTG+1: t78372
MP1: t47807
MP2: t86987
CO: t52354
Button: t36042
Hero: t43117
BB: t27836

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t3600</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls t3000 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5880)</font>, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t8880, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets t6000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t16800</font>

You have some of the details wrong and left out my stack size.


What range of hands do you think I have after calling an UTG + 1 raise from the SB and then check raising this flop? Of those hands, what am I folding to a shove?

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none of them i assume, especially with the stack size.



(but im only a rookie)

[Crispy]

Ok, heres what I gave you a range with, 55-88, any 9 or T, you culd have 9T-AT,or 89-A9. Maybe you do this with open end draw, or flush draw. I wasnt sure if a push here would represent an overpair and possibly get a fold. Only reason I didnt check behind is that my continuation betting has been getting a lot of folds, up until this point. 2nd, if I have an overpair, I am betting this with good frequency and checking here is going to have a barrel fired at me on the turn and I may have the best hand already.

[grafyx]

wow man you are way off on my range for calling an utg+1 raise from the sb as the only caller. A9 seriously? Even if I did misclick and have A9, why would I checkraise? I can't see a worse hand calling or a better hand folding. Furthermore, if I did checkraise A9 because I was tilting about misclicking preflop I'm not folding to a shove.

No respectable nit is calling 8% of his stack from the SB vs an UTG+1 raise with the range you have given. It's just not profitable to make that call with J9s. I don't even call with most of those hands given in your range on the button.

[Cleverbeans]

I think his range for calling OOP would be pretty tight, say AKo-AQs, TT+. Check raising from the small blind I'd put him on a set of 10s or AK/AQ hearts.

[mayesie]

Is it safe to assume that the villain check-raised to 20k on the flop? You described the flop action as if you acted first.

There's no mention of the villain's stacksize. If he has me covered, I call the check-raise and evaluate on the turn. I don't like shoving here, as I don't think there's yet enough info to know how likely it is to succeed. If you have some sort of read that points to going all-in, then I like that option alot more.

How are you so certain he shoves the turn?

After seeing the size of the villain's stack, I really hate going all-in. He's not going away, so fold and get on to the next hand.

[grafyx]

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Is it safe to assume that the villain check-raised to 20k on the flop? You described the flop action as if you acted first.



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I posted the converted hand with the correct actions and stack sizes.

[Crispy]

Well I haven't seen you play many hands, so I could not tell if you were a nit or not. I have seen many times a call from the SB with QT, K9s etc especially against a LAG opponenet. But if you are tight, then I would limit your range to 88+ ATs, maybe JQ+.

[omaha]

If your cbetting has been working, and you are then craised, I tend to work on this theory.

The craiser is not scared of tptk, and often has that very crushed.

I think i would toss if i had no hearts.

I think he prolly has 910 or aj hearts, or a set.