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Old 01-26-2007, 05:47 PM
MrTeddyKGB MrTeddyKGB is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

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Flop: 4 Q A ($460, 3 players)
Hero bets $356, UTG+1 folds, Button calls.

Turn: K ($1172, 2 players)
Hero ?

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villan has 1000 left pot is 1200 i push this all day long. You are representing super strength here. If he calls you may have as many as 12 outs. His calling three times seems to be trying to use his position against you. with the pot already so large and I feel we have good equity vs his range I would push and take his play away. AA, KK, QQ seem very likley for us. If he called 2x with 7c 8c then he will often have other stupid hands that were trying to take it away that can't call now. I think it is too dangerous to give a free card here to a hand that would not have called us. since the pot is so big I would try to take it down.
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Old 01-26-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

Yup. I think you should push. a)he can make a hero call with worse - although obviously unlikely. b)he can take a free card which can kill you if you check - nightmare in such a big pot and c)you have plenty of outs if called, most likely.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

If you check and I push what do you do?
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

chack cawl
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

i would be checking this flop
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

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Yup. I think you should push. a)he can make a hero call with worse - although obviously unlikely. b)he can take a free card which can kill you if you check - nightmare in such a big pot and c)you have plenty of outs if called, most likely.

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given hero's action on the flop, i think its really tough not to put hero on at least AJ, i couldn't see most people making that flop bet with anything worse than AJ or some type of reasonably strong draw.

i don't see how you could shove the turn and EVER get called by a worse hand. in fact, i think shoving the turn is bascially just turning your hand into a bluff.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

Check-calling isn't good because he isn't betting any hand you beat.

Check-folding is [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] because your hand looks beautiful and you have SOOO many outs haha [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Open push trying to represent a set (or two pair -- less likely believable) and hope he folds A4 (mayyybe AQ) is what I would do when I'm on tilt.

One hand I forgot to mention, he has Aces.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:35 PM
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Check-calling isn't good because he isn't betting any hand you beat.


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wrong!
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Old 01-27-2007, 12:57 PM
shmahappens shmahappens is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

I don't think I can call a push here, I feel like you have KQ and I can get it to lay down.

You've played flush draws agro vs me in position, so I don't think you're on that draw often.

Ax I can't see floating then calling a repot 3 ways

I really can't see what you're floating on the flop other than Ax, KQ, or maybe were just planning on making a big move on the turn.

If I try and CR this turn you're too pot committed to fold KQ (pot 12, you bet 8? have 3 or so left), and I think you can easily fold it in this spot.
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Old 01-27-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6max, deep vs CTS

I don't think CTS is calling this flop with many worse hands than yours.

CRAI is very bad.

Either you check fold, or shove.
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