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Old 02-08-2006, 08:06 AM
AlmightyJay AlmightyJay is offline
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Default Re: Blind steal faces a river donk.

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Sorry I didn't convert this but I don't have the hand history with me right now.

No stats on villain
0.50/1 Party
Hero is button with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
all fold to hero who raises,SB folds, BB calls

FLOP:
K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB checks, hero bets

TURN
4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks, hero bets

RIVER
7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB bets, hero?

I think a call is in order here. I see alot of people donking that river with all kinds of hands, and the villain is an unknown. Also, anybody free card that turn...I thought about doing that but I thought a bet was in order. Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

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What do you think he has that you're beating on this river? Any K beats you and you're at best tied with another A. You really think villain plays Q-high like this?

Personally I think he's either got a flush, a 7, or some low pocket pair that he decided to bluff trips with. In any case, you're behind here way more than 55% of the time.
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:46 AM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: Blind steal faces a river donk.

Think A2o is too weak for a stealraise against most party-blinds. Itīs a one card hand (the 2 is worthless) wich is difficult to play against callingstations. U want both blinds to fold. In my experience that doesnīt happen often enough.

Turn is a little bit tricky. U could be ahead against a one card flush draw or something else. And a bet can buy u a free showdown. On the other hand if uīre CR u have to call. Then u would have payed 2 bb for a draw that could have cost 0. Giving a free card here is not so bad. With A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] u should definitely bet. And against most passive partyplayers I would bet here with ur hand too.

River could be a bluff by a busted flushdraw. Better to call so they wonīt see u as a folder.
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:50 AM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: Blind steal faces a river donk.

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In any case, you're behind here way more than 55% of the time.

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Since the pot is offering 5.25:1 for a call 45% winning chance is ok with me!
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Old 02-08-2006, 09:08 AM
vhuntd vhuntd is offline
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Default Re: Blind steal faces a river donk.

PT shows that I'm making a small profit blind stealing with ace rag. People actually pre-flop pretty often or for the flop bet.
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Old 02-08-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Blind steal faces a river donk.

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Think A2o is too weak for a stealraise against most party-blinds.

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It's not. Any Ace is good enough to steal with.
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Old 02-08-2006, 05:13 PM
Ignignokt Ignignokt is offline
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Default Re: Blind steal faces a river donk.

There's no shame in folding this.

IMO turn bet was fine, considering the average BB with nada is quite likely to call a non-A flop but fold to a turn bet AND you have a solid chance of improving.

Get a read on villain and try it again then. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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