The Mrs. epdaws Files: Hand Three, Most Interesting Yet. (FT 100)

[the machine]

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check

but i think im getting it AI here.

if checked behind lead river weak (~40ish) and call a poooosh

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Range for Villain, anyone?

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AQ, JJ, 1010, maybe 77-99 though unlikely they peel here but not impossible, maybe a far fetched KQs. spades also may take this line.

[Dan Bitel]

I'd even consider a flop check here

[amoeba]

this is an easy turn all in for me but I may reraise more often than you.

but honestly OOP, I still like all in or checkfold as there isn't much more to eval.

I'm assuming those who want to eval really mean check the turn, if he checks behind, I push a non K river, if he pushes the turn, I make a decision.

I'm not sure I like this over just pushing the turn or checkfolding.

[Dan Bitel]

amoeba,

why is pushing all in on the turn better than checking and calling an all in?

[amoeba]

because I don't think hands like 99-JJ push very often on the turn.

[Dan Bitel]

and you think they call a push?

[PBJaxx]

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because I don't think hands like 99-JJ push very often on the turn.

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Are they more likely to call a push? Are you worried about them hitting a 2-outer on the riv?

[forshure]

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I'd even consider a flop check here

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I think I def would check the flop. Also, I really doubt TT JJ are in the bbs range. Does he really call the flop v a three better with second or third pair on the board w/ two possible overpairs when a pfrr bets into a three way pot with someone else still left to act behind? I would really doubt you are ahead here anymore after he calls the flop, and at best are prob chopping. I am checking the turn here always folding probably 95%+ and will check the river again if I am still in the hand. At this point I would really really hope for a free showdown, as there is definately no way that villan is going to bet TT JJ or really any other hand you beat, or call with any hand that you do beat, unless he bets the chop at some point, although i dont think I have ever seen anyone taggish cc a three bet pf w/ AQ.

I dont really know what his range would be on the flop, but I have def seen some people who would call w/ any pair there and set mine.

[amoeba]

again, a bit is tainted probably by how often I push the turn here with less than AQ but yes I think they are much more likely to call a push than push themself with JJ-99.

I'm not worried about the 2-outer but those aren't the only hands they can check behind.

and 2 outer with pretty much implied odds for rest of your stack isn't too great anyways.

[mosuavea]

Very interesting hand

I think he could has AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] here going for an over call on the flop

I don't think someone with those numbers takes this line with a set but stranger things have happened.

Range is AQs+ and TT+ with the stray set in there from time to time.

Tough hand, I think all lines mentioned have merit including the c/f which I have a feeling may be the best line here.