200NL Middle set on flush board

[n1nj4.br]

I dont get your flop call.

[SABR42]

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I doubt he's checking a made flush twice. You have to bet more on the turn to build that pot and make a bet on the river easier to call. The allin makes it look like you're repping the flush too hard after the turn bet.

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I agree with betting more on the turn to build the pot, but repping the flush isn't really an issue here, because JJ = flush, if villain doesn't himself have a flush.

[Daddy Warbucks]

No i mean you're less likely to get a call from like a AQ because you're repping a big hand so hard. The set of J's is more concealed than the flush draw.

[mudbuddha]

you r seeing monsters or ur being results oriented

if that spot is me, im happy to hand him my stack if he has QQ


but hammer the rest most likely its combo draws and maybe even 2 overs + flush which ur beating

[ValarMorghulis]

Preflop, I think calling and raising are both good. I thought about raising and decided to call this time.

Okay, I never normally see monsters under the bed, I'm more likely to value stack myself but when the PFRer c/minraised me, alarm bells went off in my head. That's why I played so tentatively on flop and turn. I finally convinced myself on the river that I was a fool to put him on only one hand and pushed. Villain tanked, typed "This is sick. Top set. I've lost with a set against a flush 3 times today", and called with QQ. (Sounds like it was nearly a great bluff.)

So my read was QQ. And it was QQ. So I'm wondering whether I should of trusted my read more, or whether it just happened that I was right this one time.

But I know if I read someone else's post saying this, I'd think, stupid results-oriented fish, there's no way you can put villain on one hand.

Next time I'll raise flop.

[mbman]

OP, please don't put villain on one single hand, no way your read can be just that precise. I agree that his line really is scary, but still, QQ and only QQ beats you on the flop. If he has gotten that lucky, I think I just have to pay him off. Is it really IMPOSSIBLE that he is playing AA/KK/draw/random bluff like this on the flop?
I really need a mega-super-razorsharp read to put him squarely on one hand, and I think I have never had such a good read actually..

[primate]

I'd re-raise preflop to something like $23. Then bet near the pot and push to any aggression. OOP better to re-raise preflop and kno where you stand.

You re-raise big preflop with more hands than AA KK your more likely to get your stack in when your sitting with AA and somebody looks you up.

[ValarMorghulis]

"You re-raise big preflop with more hands than AA KK"

Of course, but I'd rather raise with 67s and call with JJ rather than the other way round.

[holla]

Why everybody likes to bet on the turn?

[Suigin406]

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Why everybody likes to bet on the turn?

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with 3 spades out there, it's important to charge him just in case he has the A or K of spades...

no he doesn't have a flush here with just a turn call...i atually think he might have QQ here too, but since flush seems unlikely, i'm throwing my stack in there...