Hand against John Phan - $2500 Tunica event at the Gold Strike

[Inyaface]

I like checking the flop here although a bet isn't bad.
As played call turn and fold river.

[Deuce2High]

I'd make my decision on the flop. I'd probably shove, and I like fold better than call against the flop minraise here. Only hand I'm really scared of is TT, however, and I think it's a very likely hand for him. The way I think of it, is if you are going to pay off TT for another 1k chips on the turn and maybe even on the river, I think the better play is push out the draws on the flop and lock up the guaranteed chips before he can suck out, and possibly get a call from KK.

[TheUsher]

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I'd make my decision on the flop. I'd probably shove, and I like fold better than call against the flop minraise here. Only hand I'm really scared of is TT, however, and I think it's a very likely hand for him. The way I think of it, is if you are going to pay off TT for another 1k chips on the turn and maybe even on the river, I think the better play is push out the draws on the flop and lock up the guaranteed chips before he can suck out, and possibly get a call from KK.

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So you're going to call the extra 22xBB minraise + shove for 141xBB more on the flop? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I feel like he could play perfectly against me there and I lose the most I could possibly lose + miss value from lower overpairs.

Just wanted to say again too that I'm very upset I didn't check behind on the flop as the hand could have played much easier, regardless of what would come on the turn/river.

[MLG]

edit: wrong thread.

[MLG]

probably fold river. but yuck.


also, while i like checking the flop sometimes, I think most of the check flop check flop mentality is pretty results oriented here. I think consistently checking the flop here will end up with you losing value.

[ChipSpeak]

I don't understand the flop check? why do you not want a large pot? Most flops will drop a draw of some kind, is this mainly based on deep stack play?
Pot control is a leak for me. At 40 bb's how does your play change?

[0evg0]

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At 40 bb's how does your play change?

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get as many chips in as possible on the flop

[DDBeast]

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also, while i like checking the flop sometimes, I think most of the check flop check flop mentality is pretty results oriented here. I think consistently checking the flop here will end up with you losing value.

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[dgg2dmy]

I dont understand we we would want to check to flop neither. Surely you can't play with a scared mentality that every flop has you beat and every player you play will outplay you.

[Dazza1984]

It smells of 1010 to be honest. raise more preflop. post flop is ok