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#11
01-11-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: AJ flops trip aces, passive villain makes overbet shove
OMG, call call call call.
1.5 AF from soemoen who plays 50% of his hands is high. Trip Aces with any kicker is a big hand for him, and if he plays this many hands he almost definately plays any ace. Sure you might be beat sometimes, but this is such an easy call its not funny. 
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#12
01-11-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: AJ flops trip aces, passive villain makes overbet shove
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This bet wants action. I think you are in an extremely marginal spot. Not saying call or fold. I actually think it's close to neutral. [/ QUOTE ] really? this shove seems to want a fold, even brain dead morans have more sense than to shove 99/A9 here. i think this looks more like a baby ace
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#13
01-11-2007, 04:30 PM
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Re: AJ flops trip aces, passive villain makes overbet shove
What a miserable spot.
I think this situation is absolutely 100% percent read-dependent. Since you don't have much to go on, i think this is a fold. Better to make a small mistake than a huge one. To those who say insta-call, why can't this be AK/AQ?? Low pfr, low AF...looks like one of those there's-no-way-he-has-the-nuts-OMG-he-has-teh-nuts raises...
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#14
01-11-2007, 04:37 PM
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Re: AJ flops trip aces, passive villain makes overbet shove
Tough hand. I think I'd fold, but hands like this make me realize I don't have a precise understanding of aggression #s as they relate to voluntary. The guy who said not to discount his aggression since he's playing a ton of hands has a good point. I realize it wouldn't be that reliable over 150 hands, but did you check his c-r #s? How relevant would you consider that to be if they were abnormally high or just 0 over this # of hands?
From a psychological perspective, I have a much easier time understanding this bet as A9, 99, AK hoping to get a call from a worse Ace then any other reasoning. I don't think he'd expect us to fold this type of hand, and I also don't think he'd consider how strong a c-r overbet is. My experience is also that overbets are more often the nuts at these stakes. Then again, he's bad so who knows.
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#16
01-12-2007, 09:50 AM
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Re: Results
err snapcall??
He doesn't limp AK/AQ (he isn't THAT passive preflop) and I can seem him do this with any ace and some random cards (OMG he c-bet lets push he'll fold anyway), if your beat here its by 99 or A9 not AK/AQ... I can't believe so many people advocated folding...
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#17
01-12-2007, 11:27 AM
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Re: Results
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err snapcall?? He doesn't limp AK/AQ (he isn't THAT passive preflop) and I can seem him do this with any ace and some random cards (OMG he c-bet lets push he'll fold anyway), if your beat here its by 99 or A9 not AK/AQ... I can't believe so many people advocated folding... [/ QUOTE ]
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