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Old 01-11-2007, 07:37 AM
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

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Old 01-11-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

how frequent is squeezing in this game?

because it looks a whole lot like spades/boat to me.

Also I dont think there are too many hands in your range that fold river after calling turn here, so that probably cuts down on his 3-barreling somewhat.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:43 AM
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Also I dont think there are too many hands in your range that fold river after calling turn here, so that probably cuts down on his 3-barreling somewhat.

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Old 01-11-2007, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

Poker becomes a lot easier if you just fold this flop
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Old 01-11-2007, 05:00 PM
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The only way to make a play like this is to have a really good read that you did not provide us with. Assuming none exists, preflop is the only well played street.
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Old 01-11-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

congrats if you won this but this hand isn't worth discussing because it's not near standard(or creative or anything) in a vaccuum.

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Old 01-11-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

What site has 20/40 full ring games ?
Also this looks donkish to me but many high stakes plays looks donkish to middle stakes grinders so I guess it doesnt matter much.
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

Ok, Baris guessed it, this is indeed a reverse post. I'm Villain and I had 43 hearts for a complete bluff. I don't want to berate the Hero in this hand though. He is a very tricky and persistent player that plays looser than most, and has always given me trouble. I don't see how he can have a read on me for this hand since it's a new account and this is the first time we've played together on this account. After he made this call, I immediately packed up and quit to avoid tilting, because I couldn't see how it was possible, and I thought that maybe I was outplayed. I'm trying to get into his mind and his thought process in this calldown. If everyone agrees with my original thought that this is a horrible play by him, maybe he's just not as good as I thought and I can push this edge.

It seems that the only point I can really take out of this is that my river bluff wasn't great. At the time, I was hoping to knock out KK/QQ/JJ with a spade by shoving the river. Would a big hand be more likely to check to induce a shove from something like that? I'd probably shove a lower set or a flush in my (Villain's) position, but maybe not AA or AK, given that AA will get a shove from a lower set anyway and AK won't get a call from anything I beat. Should I just check/fold my trash on the river?
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Old 01-11-2007, 07:57 PM
Get_better_Baris Get_better_Baris is offline
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

you could maybe pot the turn? if he calls there then just c/f river or check turn thru and pot river. just throwing out ideas
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:31 PM
Ryanb9 Ryanb9 is offline
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Default Re: Double-stack 20/40 calldown

I think he should have folded!!!! He is either a donk or had your # on this one. Nice job on leaving / avoiding tilting $$$ away -- [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

What was your timing on your bets? That might have been the givaway ...
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