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#11
01-08-2007, 02:33 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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Just curious, why the preflop raise? [/ QUOTE ] yes, looking back , preflop raise was stupid. my thinking was, "noone has raised, i have a decent hand, get more money in" [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. 
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#12
01-08-2007, 02:35 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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[ QUOTE ] Just curious, why the preflop raise? [/ QUOTE ] yes, looking back , preflop raise was stupid. my thinking was, "noone has raised, i have a decent hand, get more money in" [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. [/ QUOTE ] I liked the pf raise. We've very likely got the best hand, or if UTG limped in w/ a small pocket pair, then he's just begging to fold on to nearly any flop.
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#14
01-08-2007, 02:46 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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in as much as there is 1 card in each example that the villain has to be holding to beat me, then no, i dont see the difference. I guess he is more likely to play a hand with a Q in it , rather than a hand with a 9 in it, but thats the only difference i see. [/ QUOTE ] So in this case there is only one card that beats you? It is not possible he limped with T2s? or JJ+?
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#15
01-08-2007, 02:47 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
ok heres another one
Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>. Flop: (5.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero ????
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#16
01-08-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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Why not ? Im fine with the raise. [/ QUOTE ] I could go either way. You're out of position against a guy who limped UTG. He's probably a passive player with a suited connector/small pp, your a small favorite against his range and he won't fold easily. On the other hand, if you get it heads up you'll probably show a small profit over the long run. I would use my read on the BB to decide.
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#17
01-08-2007, 02:50 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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So in this case there is only one card that beats you? It is not possible he limped with T2s? or JJ+? [/ QUOTE ] yes its possible. There were other combinations of cards in the other hand that could have beaten me as well.
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#18
01-08-2007, 02:50 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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ok heres another one Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>. Flop: (5.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero ???? [/ QUOTE ] Call down. There are plenty of folks who like to bet the scare cards. Sometimes he'll have it, sometimes he won't. Sometimes he'll just think you missed the flop and can make you fold by raising.
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#19
01-08-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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ok heres another one Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>. Flop: (5.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero ???? [/ QUOTE ] What are your reads? Does this guy c/r scary boards? There isn't a standard line here. Against an unknown it's probably a fold, against a tricky maniac it's probably a raise.
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#20
01-08-2007, 02:54 PM
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Re: AAAAAAAAARGH!
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ok heres another one Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>. Flop: (5.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero ???? [/ QUOTE ] I'd call down still. If not for my sanity/reads than anything else.
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