Straddle -- How Much?

[Headhunter13]

Rootersod --
exactly! A straddle isn't the same as a dark bet since the action is still live. We had someone try to live straddle for more than twice the BB. We didn't let him, but I didn't have a good reason other than "I've never seen it done." (Of course, that didn't prevent him from dark-betting $50 UTG).

I didn't think it could be anything other than 2xBB for it to still be live, but wanted to check here.

--Headhunter

[bav]

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In Las Vegas, it seems you can straddle almost anywhere, and some rooms allow re-straddles

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SAY WHAT? Nu-uh. LV is anal about straddles. No place I know of allows restraddles and no place I know of allows straddling anywhere except immediately behind the BB.

Mind you, I have been at tables where the dealer got talked into allowing a restraddle, but the floor was displeased when he came over and saw it going on.

So... where in LV do they allow restraddles or straddles other than UTG?

[ceczar]

i played in a live semiprivate game in NYC last week where the straddle could be either 2x or 3x the BB ($50 or $75), and a restraddle could also be 2x or 3x the previous (a $50 was restraddled to $150).

it was the first time i'd ever seen it, but it's a pretty well run game so i don't think they just made it up.

[TheWorstPlayer]

NL, I assume?

[ceczar]

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NL, I assume?

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yeah

[TheWorstPlayer]

you're playing in a 10/25 game in nyc where people are straddling and then getting restraddled to 150? christ, I am way too far out of the local scene... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[AlienBoy]

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In Las Vegas, it seems you can straddle almost anywhere, and some rooms allow re-straddles

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SAY WHAT? Nu-uh. LV is anal about straddles. No place I know of allows restraddles and no place I know of allows straddling anywhere except immediately behind the BB.

Mind you, I have been at tables where the dealer got talked into allowing a restraddle, but the floor was displeased when he came over and saw it going on.

So... where in LV do they allow restraddles or straddles other than UTG?

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Bahhh... Perhaps I misspoke, Bav - To be honest, I've never *personally* seen a re-straddle, but according to Clarkmeister, you could restraddle at the Stardust. And I remember reading somewhere else that was Vegas related. Though perhaps it was an aberration?

AB

[Ignignokt]

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In Washington State, the casinos I've visited allow straddles in LIMIT but NOT in No Limit. WTF?!

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Basically, in lieu of no-limit, WA allows 2 tribal casinos to spread up to $500 max-buy-in and max-bet Spread Limit. Likely the gov't sets a whole number of rules around that, including blind sizes.

[*TT*]

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i played in a live semiprivate game in NYC last week where the straddle could be either 2x or 3x the BB ($50 or $75), and a restraddle could also be 2x or 3x the previous (a $50 was restraddled to $150).

it was the first time i'd ever seen it, but it's a pretty well run game so i don't think they just made it up.

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In NYC private games anything bigger than 2x the BB placed by UTG is called a dark raise, and it is not live. NYC games also have whats called a sleeper which is similar to a straddle but it allows the hero to remove the raised blind in nobody calls. Sleepers are never UTG, and its very rarely performed (I've only seen it 2x)

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In Las Vegas, it seems you can straddle almost anywhere, and some rooms allow re-straddles

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SAY WHAT? Nu-uh. LV is anal about straddles. No place I know of allows restraddles and no place I know of allows straddling anywhere except immediately behind the BB.

Mind you, I have been at tables where the dealer got talked into allowing a restraddle, but the floor was displeased when he came over and saw it going on.

So... where in LV do they allow restraddles or straddles other than UTG?

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Bahhh... Perhaps I misspoke, Bav - To be honest, I've never *personally* seen a re-straddle, but according to Clarkmeister, you could restraddle at the Stardust. And I remember reading somewhere else that was Vegas related. Though perhaps it was an aberration?

AB

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Not true. Last year we straddled at the Wynn 5 ways and each one was live when we didn't straddle 5x. I look down at my cards and see 72o and announce to the dealer "I need a seven or a duce or I'm screwed". Of course the flop came 772 and JBB called me down like the donkey that he is [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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