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Old 01-07-2007, 09:38 AM
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EPT Deauville is about to be cancelled by the Casino Barriere,

it's a shame but there is a great chance that we will not have an EPT in Deuville this year.

This is due to the new legislation in France which prohibits online gambling.
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:02 PM
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EPT Deauville is about to be cancelled by the Casino Barriere,

it's a shame but there is a great chance that we will not have an EPT in Deuville this year.

This is due to the new legislation in France which prohibits online gambling.

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Any links related to this?
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Old 01-08-2007, 04:32 PM
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http://www.europeanpokertour.com/

http://www.europeanpokertour.com/schedule.html

>> Deauville Cancelled
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Old 01-08-2007, 05:21 PM
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Thanks for the links mass. While google searching this topic I came across the EPT website and somehow missed it. My guess is I opened a cached version of the front page or I am a complete fool (strong possibility)

A quick ? in regard to an earlier post of yours:

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France is going to ban like USA :

- Our provider will warn their customers about the dangers of online gambling and the fact that these sites are illegal in France

- French bank will block online winnings

- Advertisement for illegal sites will be illegal too.

Of course :

- the poker players will continue to play, they can use Neteller to withdraw their winning
- i believe they will not attack the players themselves
- nor the online community like clubpoker.net (6000 members)

The game of poker is becoming very popular in France, we have the WPT, WSOP, EPT @ TV, and Poker is just becoming legal in Casinos.

I dont know if PartyPoker will refuse french players in the following weeks, but that a strong possibility.

Laurent

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Are you saying that banks would only block direct transfers from/to the sites but let neteller transactions go through?
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:00 AM
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I believe they will not block Neteller... but they will block bank transferts from gambling site according to the new law.

IMO, the best solution is the Neteller card or a bank account in UK.

ps : I was aware of the cancellation of EPT Deauville before the announcement on EPT website. The first information came from the Casino Barrière of Deauville which was in tought with the french police [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]...

This is a shame for all french poker players...
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:41 AM
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More French news...

Malta court rules in favour of Zeturf in case against PMU

The Maltese court of appeal has refused to enforce a judgment brought by a French court in a case brought by the French horse racing operator Pari Mutuel Urbain (PMU) against the Malta-based online bookmaker Zeturf.

The original judgment by the French tribunal in July 2005, upheld by the Paris court of appeal in January 2006, had ordered Zeturf to cease taking bets on horse races held in France.

However, the Maltese court concluded that “the matter was of administrative nature and therefore falls outside the scope of the EC regulation”. It said PMU was “incorporated as a commercial entity and yet regulated by an ‘ad hoc’ law that gives it power that is usually not allocated to private enterprise”.

Although PMU has repeatedly denied that argument, the Maltese court concluded that it “is an entity of an administrative nature that is singularly empowered to shape and enforce French policy on gaming matters”.

Thibault Verbiest, senior partner at Ulys law firm, said the ruling was very good news for the online gaming sector, although the motivating factors behind it were unexpected and the ruling had to be examined closely. The legal repercussions of the case in Europe would depend on how well-founded the ruling turns out to be and whether other countries can follow it.

“The reasoning seems to be that PMU is a private company, but has powers equivalent to those of a state monopoly. Because of this, the case is to do with administrative law rather than civil or commercial law, and the Maltese court is saying it does not have the competency to rule on ‘administrative’ cases,” Verbiest said.

Verbiest added that PMU was the manifestation of the French state’s horse racing operations through a private commercial entity. “This is an important setback for PMU, on a PR level it is disastrous and highlights the environment in which PMU operates in France,” he said.

The Malta Lotteries and Gaming Authority, which regulates egaming in the jurisdiction, said the decision strengthened the jurisdiction’s position in the European online gaming sector.

source: eGaming Review
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Old 01-10-2007, 06:03 AM
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“The reasoning seems to be that PMU is a private company, but has powers equivalent to those of a state monopoly. Because of this, the case is to do with administrative law rather than civil or commercial law, and the Maltese court is saying it does not have the competency to rule on ‘administrative’ cases,” Verbiest said.


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Well Malta can spot a monopoly arrangement well enough. If the French try this via the EU courts they will be laughed out, I guess that's why they tried the Malta court. I suspect this case may have startd before Malta joined the EU and now they have rightly said take this nonsense to where it belongs - the court PMU knows they would lose in!!!

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