Do you 4-bet AA or KK?

[LucidDream]

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I think a lot of it would depend on table image and if he's 3-bet you before.

I'd be more inclined to 4-bet KK than AA.

My usual line is to smooth call the 3-bet with AA however

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The best time to do it is when it looks like it is out of frustration from being 3 bet. 4 bet shoving makes you look more tilted and your range look wider...although sometimes my range is wider on a 4 bet shove, which is why I throw AA and KK into that mix as well sometimes.

[DLizzle]

I flat call then hope they cbet the flop with AA quite a bit, KK too but less. Depends if I've been 4betting light and they know it, and what they will go broke with. Against some people I just jam and hope they think I have AK or FOS.

[trplthrt]

I think you need a matrix of laggy/taggy/tight with you and your opp to come up with situational answers. Relatively impossible to answer this in a vaccuum. Given you play well post-flop.

[LegallyBlind]

i think my position on the 3-better has more to do with whether i 4-bet, as opposed to whether on not i have KK or AA

[HiiroYuy]

Well if you never 4-bet before doing it with AA will be pretty transparent.

Image is what it comes down to.

[Fight Club]

I 4 bet if I'm 4-betting same villan with air occasionally. in other words if he's 3 betting a big range.

[john kane]

with AA, if he has reraised to less than 1/10th of his stack then i 4 bet.
if he has reraised to more than 1/10th of his stack then i flat call.

reasoning being assuming i will stick the majority of my chips on the flop and the rest in on the turn, i want to make sure im not giving him odds to hit his set. my line is about 1/10th in this situation.

now admittedly im not charging him when i flat call if he raises to greater than 1/10th of his stack, but he is effectively charging himself. if he is making a mistake by charging himself too much, i will flat call. if he is not making a mistake by me not charging him enough, then i reraise (4bet) to charge him enough that he is not getting odds to flop his set.


as for KK, it is entirely opponent dependent. vs a lag opponent i will flat call as his hand range contains enough non-AA hands.

if he is a nit then i reraise and if he 5bets i likely fold. but hopefully he will delay for a while and either flat call with AK/QQ/JJ or fold.

[smartalecc5]

JW, if you 4bet with air, lets says 86s, assuming 2/4 NL $400 eff stacks, you 4bet to $160. He shoves all in as a 5bet. You fold then right...this makes it hard for anyone to give respect to your 4bets in the future.

[Fight Club]

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JW, if you 4bet with air, lets says 86s, assuming 2/4 NL $400 eff stacks, you 4bet to $160. He shoves all in as a 5bet. You fold then right...this makes it hard for anyone to give respect to your 4bets in the future.

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No way. Your doing it with AA/KK most of the time.

[RollinHand]

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Just go all-in and watch ppl instacall with AK.

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