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12-23-2006, 02:17 AM
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Re: Stars $11 x 180, QQ, Call 3rd Raise Preflop?
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[ QUOTE ] honestly I prob call when 20 tabling but when I analyze it buttons cold shoving range is prob QQ+ AK. [/ QUOTE ] If that is villain's range, you are 40% against his range, which is ahead of the pot odds you are getting. I think you have to call against an unknown in a $10 tournament, because there is some possibility he is making a maniac play with whatever. Also, the push looks less dangerous than a bet size tell like minireraising. [/ QUOTE ] He actually had another $2000 behind. My title is probably somewhat confusing. 
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#13
12-23-2006, 02:19 AM
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Re: Stars $11 x 180, QQ, Call 3rd Raise Preflop?
Point taken Bob. haha
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#14
12-23-2006, 02:41 AM
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Re: Stars $11 x 180, QQ, Call 3rd Raise Preflop?
Not only back in 1995 but also in the high buy in tournament with mostly professional players that T.J Cloutier plays in when he wrote that.
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#15
12-23-2006, 05:03 AM
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Re: Stars $11 x 180, QQ, Call 3rd Raise Preflop?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] honestly I prob call when 20 tabling but when I analyze it buttons cold shoving range is prob QQ+ AK. [/ QUOTE ] Now how does this mesh with the other thread? [/ QUOTE ] this is quite diff than him 3betting and this post is him cold 4betting. Plus the diff of QQ and KK is significant as that hand is a lot more likly to be in his range when you hold KK. [/ QUOTE ] umm *I* would be 4 betting (actually 3 betting) into a thinking player. what's supposed to call this? [/ QUOTE ] When did I ever say in your thread about 4betting PF? I agree with the PF CC and think you should check shove the flop.
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