SSHE: Ed Miller's Distinction

[Al Mirpuri]

Dear Hoss1193,

All the posts have been helpful but I think yours was really useful in that you had a look in SS1 and stated something as a fact that some had earlier said differently. If you are correct then then the set/trips distinction was in place by as early as 1978.

Thanks again everyone for your contributions.

[Hoss1193]

Al, thx for your post, I appreciate it. Your question and some of the replies just piqued my curiosity, so I started rummaging through my books trying to find the earliest reference to the term.

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...you had a look in SS1 and stated something as a fact that some had earlier said differently.

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If you're referring to Phydaux's comment above, I just want to point out that my specific reference was to Bobby Baldwin's Limit Hold 'Em section. Phydaux (I think) was referring to Doyle's discussion of NLHE in the same book, where his observation is probably perfectly valid (been a long time since I read it, don't specifically remember).

[Wetdog]

I don't know where (page or chapter) but Sklansky makes the distinction between the two in TOP.

[NickMPK]

I remember looking through the glossaries of all my poker books (probably around 20 glossaries), and about half made a distinction between a "set" and "trips" and half defined them in the same way.

Having there be a distinction is probably more relevant now that Hold-em is much more popular than Stud. I believe both terms can be used to refer to three-of-a-kind in Stud no matter how many are open.

[Stephen C]

I believe there is a clear distintion between the two terms. As I like to tell people; Your "trips" make my "set" a full house!

[jeffnc]

Fer crissakes, in Super System they call the flop the turn and the turn the flop, or whatever the hell.

Yes, a set is distinct from trips and almost everyone knows that. I know one guy who calls a set "trips", but then every time he's first to bet on the flop, he says "raise". So whatever.

[Matt Flynn]

Sets are not trips, and trips are not sets.

Many people don't make the distinction. Similarly, the plural of pro isn't pro's, although many write it that way.

[maryfield48]

It's a useful distinction, but I suspect that it is going the way of who/whom and less/fewer.

[jimpo]

I vaguely remember reading that "set" was some time ago called a "set of trips".

[NickMPK]

So for those of you who make the distinction b/w a "set" and "trip", what is a "set" when playing 7-card stud, and what is "trips" in stud? Or do you just never use these terms?