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Old 12-21-2006, 03:28 AM
SlackerMcFly SlackerMcFly is offline
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Default Re: Dry pot question for the pros

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You bet out of the pot a hand that beats shorty and he wins the pot leaves you with 15% of the prizepool.

You take the pot down and bust shorty leaves you with 23% of the prizepool.

You checking it down and the other guy busts shorty leaves you with 16% of the prizepool.


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This is the most compelling reason to bet the flop or raise p/f. Thus my quandary here.

BB should call with any two here, but would move on me if I raised, so I just called p/f. When he called, I was basically lost. If he had a K, then we chop the side-pot.

I should have:

A. Raised pre-flop
B. Bet the flop
C. Bet the turn
D. Bet the River
E. Not posted the whole hand.

How is it played if the whole hand weren't shown in the post? Street by street (don't wanna hear "Shove Pre-flop") for the reasons above.

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Old 12-21-2006, 04:57 AM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: Dry pot question for the pros

There is too much in this pot to not take a shot at in on the flop. You certainly are most likely ahead, but it's a drawy board and you want to protect your equity. You are too far from the bubble to be cooperating to knock a guy out. You gain more equity here by protecting your hand, than by knocking the guy out.

Not betting the turn or river is not a big deal IMO. You are now in a spot where you are less likely to be drawn out on, but also not very likely to get any action from a worse hand. If BB has any clue at all, he will not calling with a 9 or A-high. You would have to be completely bluffing while knowing you have to show down the hand.

Edit: Oh, and shove preflop.
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:01 AM
Hoffma Hoffma is offline
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Default Re: Dry pot question for the pros

If BB were a perfect calling station, people would be telling you that your preflop was correct, but that you should've bet every street. I think, the way it was played, you should've bet the flop and river if not every street, hoping he calls with an A or 9, or even mid/low pocket pair.

You really really should've pushed preflop though.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Dry pot question for the pros

To you who said shove preflop: What's your shove range here?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:59 AM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Re: Dry pot question for the pros

You can probably shove hands as weak as Q9 (maybe even weaker) here profitably. If you have have sngwiz it should be easy to figure out. The only issue is the fact that you have to show your hand down which maybe makes pushing a little bit tighter better for future situations in which you need to be pushing a wide range. Obviously this also depends a lot on what you feel the BB's calling range is, but he will probably be pretty tight after seeing two shoves in front.
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:01 AM
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Not betting the turn or river is not a big deal IMO

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I think he definitely needs to bet the river here for a few reasons.

1. He definitely has the best hand given action on previous streets.

2. He's not going to induce a bluff by checking.

3. Many opponents are bad enough that will look you up with a worse hand on the river, especially considering the previous action in this particular hand by the op.
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