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Old 02-05-2006, 02:55 AM
Sense1ess Sense1ess is offline
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Default Re: Ducks and a river all-in $25 NL

Thanks a lot for all the responses so far, folks.

I trusted my read and called, he had 87.
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Old 02-05-2006, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: Ducks and a river all-in $25 NL

Fold less often in big pots than in small ones.

You are getting a very good price with a very good hand. If villain does have you beaten, it is with a higher set.

Don't fold here!
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Old 02-05-2006, 08:29 AM
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It's a great flop for you - there's only a flush draw out there and it's pretty ragged.

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What? I count 9 different straight draws on the board.
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Old 02-05-2006, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Ducks and a river all-in $25 NL

hmmmm - must stop posting at silly o'clock in the morning.

I still don't see nine straight draws on that flop tho.

Seeing as villain looks pretty tight I doubt he's playing many of them so I still like the look of this flop.
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Old 02-05-2006, 02:25 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Ducks and a river all-in $25 NL

Well there were 7 players on the flop, so it's quite possible one of them has a piece. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Edit: I just found the last one. Dunno how that eluded me...

OESD with T9, 96, 65; gutshots with 54, 64, 95, T6, J9 and JT.
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Old 02-05-2006, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: Ducks and a river all-in $25 NL

RAISE THE FLOP MORE. THERE ARE DRAWS OUT THE WAZOO!!!!

Ok. I just had to get that out. I'm making a 3/4 pot raise on the flop and wanting to get it in on any non-spade turn.

As played... river is a coinflip. I don't feel good about my decision no matter what I do, so I think I fold. He's rarely bluffing here.
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Old 02-05-2006, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Ducks and a river all-in $25 NL

I would make it 4.50 or 5 on the flop and pot it on the turn. The pot is just too big to fold on the river, but I think you are behind more often than you are ahead.
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Old 02-05-2006, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Ducks and a river all-in $25 NL

OK.

I need to go get my eyes checked. I doubt the villain here is playing any other straight draws than JT or T9. And I'm still folding this river as I'd suspect villain holds a T more often than not...

is this a really easy call - and am I missing value in spots like this??
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Old 02-05-2006, 03:11 PM
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OK.

I need to go get my eyes checked. I doubt the villain here is playing any other straight draws than JT or T9. And I'm still folding this river as I'd suspect villain holds a T more often than not...

is this a really easy call - and am I missing value in spots like this??

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The odds are just too good to fold, you're getting almost 4:1 odds, so you only gotta be right about 1 in 5 times. thats a lot! I'd call this even getting 2:1 odds. Also, villain gave his hand away on the flop. You don't see many people with .5aggr leading out in a multiway flop with a draw. They bet with made hands only.
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