Portland OR Poker Scene?

[frommagio]

Thanks for the responses. Sounds like both Spirit Mountain and LaCenter are worth checking into. Anybody know if the rakes are comparable at both places?

Habsfanca11, interesting point on the bar scene being for points instead of cash. I've never heard of such a thing. I guess it all depends one what you can use the points for...

One last question - I'm sure that both Frontier/Chips and Spirit have lots of action on the weekends, but which is more likely to have action during the weekdays? I'm guessing Spirit.

Thx.

[Hoss1193]

I'm not that familiar with the LaCenter rooms; every time I've played there has been on a Saturday night (I drive down to Portland on weekends occasionally to see my brother or mom, and then stop by LaCenter for a couple of hours on my way back up).

That said...given that these two locations are basically the closest poker action available for a fairly large city, I'd say the weekday action is probably not too bad. La Center is closer, may be slightly more attractive to a regular player just because of a shorter drive.

[Hoss1193]

Good to hear that Frontier is adding a few tables; in the past, I've usually had a rather long wait to get a seat there.

As far as a 5/10, from what I've seen in other rooms, something like a 6/12 or 5/10 in a room where 4/8 is a "mainstay" game is likely only to attract some pretty good players from the 4/8 pool who don't have enough BR to play the 10/20. Might be OK as a "feeder" game, but I think I'd probably rather just play 4/8 or even 3/6 while waiting for a 10/20 seat to open up. The slightly higher limit is unlikely to attract many of the bozos who make low-limit poker profitable, while not being high enough that it's a profitable game even against significantly better opposition.

FWIW, I've never played the 10/20 at Frontier; I haven't been to La Center since my BR got large enough that I've added 8/16 and 10/20 as regular limits that I play. How is that game?

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

[PSW]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am curious about the impact of the lack of NL in WA casinos on the limit game. Does having no 2-5 NL game make the 10-20 game better? Do fish go to the NL game when it is available? Are 10-20 games tighter in places where NL is run side by side w/ limit?

I only have experience w/ the Last Frontier. How does Spirit Mt's 10-20 limit game compare to Last Frontier?

Thanks,

psw

[/ QUOTE ]

State law is $25 max bet, $500 max bet at tribal casinos.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, I am aware of that. I didn't ask why 10-20 games were the largest. I asked what the impact of the lack of NL games (as a result of the law) is on limit games...

psw

ps. Now that I read your post again, are you correcting me and saying that there is some small NL games at some of the tribal casinos? I had assumed that La Center was tribal... it isn't?

[ZPinhead]

Some tribals in WA offer a spread limit game that compares to NL. Usually 5/10 blinds 10-500 spread with 200-500 buyin. It plays more or less like a NL.

As for the impact on the limit games because of a restriction on NL, I'm not sure there's going to be an answer that is of any value. Since there is virtually no NL, everyone who wants to play in a B&M plays limit. In places that offer spread limit, it does seem to pull from the 10/20 & 20/40 pool of players, indicating that as the level where these players are landing. Of course there are still plenty of folks at the 3/6 and 4/8 tables that are trying to play 'like they saw on TV' that would probably play 1/2 NL if available.

[habsfanca11]

Frontier even during a weeknight is still busy. Assuming 3/6 or 4/8 you'll have at least an hour wait from 7:30 'till 11. Tables are open until 3:30 am. After midnight the lists get small and after 1 am or so there is usually immediate seating. Best advice - on any given day show up between 3:30 and 4:30, the list will appear long but they go through it pretty quickly. Most of the "old" regulars start packing it in. And you'll be ahead of the kids and the drunks who show up after 7 pm. Essentaily, it doesn't matter what day at Frontier - it'll be full. Especially this month as there is a $500 high hand jackpot. all the gamboolers like to show up for a shot at $500.

[habsfanca11]

Hoss, I haven't played in the 10/20 myself but know the players and play with them often as they are waiting for a seat at 10/20. Assuming their play is a looser at 3/6 and 4/8 because the money is inconsequential, and based on the stories I hear - 10/20 plays no different than 3/6 or 4/8 it just has players with bigger bankrolls. It's more aggressive and there is a slightly higher number of rocks than the other limits, but based on everything I hear there's plenty of loose money at 10/20. Couple of times a night you'll hear of someone capping preflop with 2,4 offsuit and hitting his straight on the turn to take down a high pocket pair. Honestly, there are maybe 4 or 5 players total that I respect at 10/20. The rest are a bunch of uptight nits or gambooling lags, some are just plain idiots. But it takes all kinds. Good luck.

[habsfanca11]

La Center isn't tribal.

There is NL at tribal's. Spirit Mountain or further away.

Because La Center is closest you tend to get a few frustrated NL players at the table all the time. It's great because they tend to over value pairs and tend to overplay their hands and for sure bluff too much. As long as you can stand the whining having them at the tables is money.

[Octopus]

[ QUOTE ]
Ethan, care to out yourself? I'm a weekend regular at 3/6 & 4/8. I'll say Hi next time I'm in if you care to reveal yourself?

[/ QUOTE ]

I play those games on occassion (thogh not as much as I would like). I'll PM you next time, if you want to meet another 2+2er. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[bernie]

[ QUOTE ]
I am curious about the impact of the lack of NL in WA casinos on the limit game. Does having no 2-5 NL game make the 10-20 game better? Do fish go to the NL game when it is available? Are 10-20 games tighter in places where NL is run side by side w/ limit?


[/ QUOTE ]

There's alot of fish to go around.

Tulalip seems to be the place to play spread limit. Not much limit(10-20 and above) in that room last time I saw on top of what I've heard. At mucks, some's response to spread is telling someone that's what Tulalip is for.

Mucks is now doing 1 spread kinda regularly. The effect on the limit games hasn't been much, so far. Especially the 10-20 game. Realize, 10-20 is like the new 4-8. It plays much the same as 4-8 did a few years ago.

I don't recognize alot of the players in the spread game. Though I have seen some normal donators from limit in that game. However, the thing is, they're limited as to how many of these games they can run at one time. Right now the room can only run 3 games with betting over $25. So if you have a 20-40 and a 50-100, then there's only 1 table left for the spread. So as the list grows(sometimes) for that, players waiting will play the other games.

b