JJ 2/4 vs unknown.

[Slappz]

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You have 500, villain has 400.

You have to call 46$ more at a 11% chance of winning his remaining 340$.

fold PF here, you can find a better spot, with that kind of a re-raise its very likely its QQ-KK.

again so fold !

holla

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Hes in position with JJ, thats the easiest call in the world.

"holla"

[schwza]

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You have 500, villain has 400.

You have to call 46$ more at a 11% chance of winning his remaining 340$.

fold PF here, you can find a better spot, with that kind of a re-raise its very likely its QQ-KK.

again so fold !

holla

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say hero is 20/15. he's raising 15% of his hands pre flop, so he must be raising at least 25% when it's folded to him on the button, probably more. if he folds JJ, he should also fold AK. so our opening range is 25% and our defense vs a 3bet range is QQ+, or 1.4%. i don't see any way we could be exploited doing that - looks fine.

[nufc4ever]

ok, but do you prefer calling here or 3 betting preflop. Even though we are in postion i wouldn't be comfortable with a lot of flops vs a cbet. Obviously this is entirely villain dependent, but i would find myself raising preflop here a lot more then i would be calling unless villain was very weak.

[schwza]

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ok, but do you prefer calling here or 3 betting preflop. Even though we are in postion i wouldn't be comfortable with a lot of flops vs a cbet. Obviously this is entirely villain dependent, but i would find myself raising preflop here a lot more then i would be calling unless villain was very weak.

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i like a call. i don't mind playing postflop when i'm in position, and 4betting risks folding out all of the worse hands. i think op's line is perfect as long as he folds the flop.

[LegallyBlind]

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ok, but do you prefer calling here or 3 betting preflop. Even though we are in postion i wouldn't be comfortable with a lot of flops vs a cbet. Obviously this is entirely villain dependent, but i would find myself raising preflop here a lot more then i would be calling unless villain was very weak.

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putting in another raise preflop would be very bad, unless we got QQ to fold

[nufc4ever]

ok cheers, say you had been playing 40/30 Lag at a table would that lend you to want too 3 bet preflop more or call more in position?

Personally if this hand happened to me i would probably find myself 3 betting here a lot more then calling and was wondering whether this is an even bigger or smaller mistake if you were playing uber lag?

[LegallyBlind]

well if your 40/30 style is going to open up his range enough that he is going to three bet and then call a preflop push with like 55+, A8+, then it makes sense to push here with JJ.

[Parlay Slow]

4 bet pre

[Kilillan]

Fold preflop?

hahahahaha

[Dan Bitel]

why on earth would you call preflop then fold this flop?

EDIT: call pf, 4betting when u have history and can do it for value

call flop