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Old 12-06-2006, 04:35 AM
THE_NER THE_NER is offline
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Wow, I'm pretty sure I raise this turn almost always.

And I would call the river as played.

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Raising the turn doesnt accomplish a whole lot. The board is relatively dry and if hes bluffing we dont want to scare him off.

He is a fish, but on the river it looks like hes expecting to get called and when he bets that big I think he has a very strong hand.
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:38 AM
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I think this fold is good. This spot sucks, but if you havent seen the villian making any moves than this is a big hand almost all the time. Plus 65 got there too.

An interesting qusetion is do you call if the river is some random card like a Q?

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yea I call if river blanks. 7 is the wrost card in the deck imo because his most likly bluffing hand on the turn(only bluffing hand?), and 97 now beats me.
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: I fold trips to a fish... thoughts?

i HATE this fold
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: I fold trips to a fish... thoughts?

There is no way I'm folding this river. Just calling the turn is fine, but then you really need to call the river.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: I fold trips to a fish... thoughts?

I like it. Even a fish won't be mistakenly value betting any worse hands than your trips on the river (except maybe 96/98), and you said he appears straightforward postflop. You beat a stonecold bluff.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: I fold trips to a fish... thoughts?

I'm never folding here
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:43 AM
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his bet sizing looks like a bluff to me. a little small on the turn for his cheap river, then jacks it on the river when he realizes you're not too strong. it is possible though that he hit with 65

if the turn was the 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] i'd fold despite my read that i think he's bluffing, but when it puts a flush draw out, and with those stats, i have a hard time folding. i don't think it's terrible though. probably just a few bucks either wya
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:48 AM
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Default Re: I fold trips to a fish... thoughts?

Why would he lead the turn with a straight draw when the board pairs 9s, making it less likely he has a 9, giving him less folding equity?
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:06 AM
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if the turn was the 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] i'd fold

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I'd fold too cos the deck would be rigged.

As for the hand this really really really looks like 56 to me - the cheap turn and then the big river. But that's obviously a pretty limited hand range. I fold if I haven't seen him get out of line ever, otherwise it really depends on how I feel about it at the time.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:14 AM
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Why would he lead the turn with a straight draw when the board pairs 9s, making it less likely he has a 9, giving him less folding equity?

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2 things. 1 is that i was thinking like 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or gutter+flush draw. 2 is that it also makes it less likely for OP to have anything at all, and it gives him a legitimate card to represent
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