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Old 12-04-2006, 01:37 PM
Burnsabre Burnsabre is offline
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

Yes you probably have odds to call... No, you don't have a clue what to do or where you stand when you hit (unless a Q comes). You're prolly giving up a little bit of value by folding but it is going to be very tough to play on turn and river. I fold.
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:42 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

2 overcards and a backdoor straight draw make it good enough for me to peel. Be careful if a King or Jack comes due do possible domination.
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

opps i thought he raised KdJd and we had the bdfd, kinda changes things
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Old 12-04-2006, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

Preflop raise is fine, I would always raise this SH. However after the 3bet in this game I would probably fold flop. Pot is big but you could be drawing nearly dead to KK, AA. Gotta go with game conditions here, normally in a regular aggro game I might peel.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:25 PM
Flintoff Flintoff is offline
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

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Note that the pot is pretty big at this time.

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I wouldn't call that pretty big.

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12.5 sbs on the flop isnt pretty big? those are some big odds to call in my book

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But what exactly are you drawing to??!
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

I fold flop. sometimes you will have live outs, but you will also often be against a hand that to beat you will have to hit a runner runner, and the bad part is that you will never know.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

Given game conditions this is a fold that I don't make as often as I should.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Overcard play: Do you call this flop?

I fold this on the flop, Reverse Impied Odds is the reason why
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