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Old 11-29-2006, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: KK preflop, fold here?

negative, call and bbv it later
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop, fold here?

Push everytime.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:43 AM
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Should I fold AA preflop here?

Here is an example of a thread where folding AA preflop is discussed. Note the general tone of the thread.

When should you fold AA preflop? When it's likely that folding will assure you of a greater expected value than not another action. The likely form of this occurrence is spelled out in the linked thread. Other examples are elsewhere, including in TPFAP. The general rule of thumb to consider before asking a folding AA preflop question would be to either look at an ICM calculation, or sit down with a pen and paper and try to figure out the EV of folding relative to your other options.

Here's another thread about folding KK preflop. Again, note the general tone of the discussion.

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Old 11-29-2006, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: KK preflop, fold here?

Stakes?
Read(s)?
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: KK preflop, fold here?

Fold if you hate money.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: KK preflop, fold here?

insta call for me, neither CO nor the SB will take AA here i think.

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Fold if you hate money.

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a good advise [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: KK preflop, fold here?

From the title you'd think this would be some crazy situation where you're second in chips on the bubble and the other two are both all in and the big stack shoves over the top or something ridiculous.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:01 PM
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dont fold KK preflop barring four all ins ahead of you or some VERY strange bubble spot.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop, fold here?

how come everytime someone has kk and theres raising going on they just assume the other person has aa? I dont know the exact odds but they are against the other player having aces. If they have aa they have it, but if you fold think about all the hands they could also have kk, qq, jj, 1010, ak. So of the hands in their range you are losing to 1, tied with 1, and crush the other 4. I dont see how you can possibly fold this, ever.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:42 PM
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how come everytime someone has kk and theres raising going on they just assume the other person has aa? I dont know the exact odds but they are against the other player having aces. If they have aa they have it, but if you fold think about all the hands they could also have kk, qq, jj, 1010, ak. So of the hands in their range you are losing to 1, tied with 1, and crush the other 4. I dont see how you can possibly fold this, ever.

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It's because we all remember the hands with AA KK QQ all in, (or even AA KK JJ). They're odd enough that they stick out in our heads like flashing blue KMart specials.

I'm pushing KK even with the flashing blue light here.
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