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Old 11-28-2006, 02:44 PM
Orcman Orcman is offline
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Default Re: Is this complete spew

yep you're right but for some reason I always try once or twice in a session. Most of the time its not worth it so ill discipline myself and play more abc unless I have a big read.
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:53 PM
2Paul2 2Paul2 is offline
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Given the size of his c/r you have no fe v better hands so this is actually a value/protection raise more often than it will be a bluff(or at least a successful bluff).

You need some history of him screwing w/ you/being a maniac in general to make this play for value/protection. Given you didnt have any history or read as such it's a pretty spewy push.

Paul
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Old 11-28-2006, 02:57 PM
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This type of play only works against villains you know like to mess around. If I had seen villain limp, call a pf raise, then cr a c-bet a time or two before, I might play back at him, because I'm not gonna let anyone f#ck with me. I would't do it without a read, though.
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:22 PM
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Much more likely to work if the check raise is smaller (say to no more than 3x the size of the c-bet) - without a read, this size of raise usually wants to play for stacks.
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Old 11-28-2006, 04:01 PM
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Don't try to 'outplay' anyone at NL$100 unless you have a read they they are very solid.

Optimal play at NL$100 against typical players is probably very close to 100% straightforward play with little to no trickery. (I do not consider C-bets or semi-bluffs as 'trickery')

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Old 11-28-2006, 05:29 PM
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yeah I have done this many times and it will occasionally work but not enough to be +EV...so yeah its spew.
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