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Old 11-18-2006, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: How to Play bottom Pair and Baby FD on the flop?

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against a higher flush draw you're ahead, you're only risking half your stack, so 'tournament life' doesnt even come into it

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true you are only risking half your stack...but you are wrong in that you would be ahead against another flush draw. because he is taking your outs and the third party will have better than bottom pair
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: How to Play bottom Pair and Baby FD on the flop?

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against a higher flush draw you're ahead, you're only risking half your stack, so 'tournament life' doesnt even come into it

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true you are only risking half your stack...but you are wrong in that you would be ahead against another flush draw. because he is taking your outs and the third party will have better than bottom pair

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Give stack sizes 'nother look, look at all the possible results.

Can't go broke here, can win a huge pot, get it HU, spike your draw if it isn't out there.

Lead strong's better, 3-bet shove though.
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: How to Play bottom Pair and Baby FD on the flop?

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against a higher flush draw you're ahead, you're only risking half your stack, so 'tournament life' doesnt even come into it

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true you are only risking half your stack...but you are wrong in that you would be ahead against another flush draw. because he is taking your outs and the third party will have better than bottom pair

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Give stack sizes 'nother look, look at all the possible results.

Can't go broke here, can win a huge pot, get it HU, spike your draw if it isn't out there.

Lead strong's better, 3-bet shove though.

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so you're one of those players that goes all in is coin flip situations just because your penis is bigger than theirs?
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: How to Play bottom Pair and Baby FD on the flop?

Maybe. I don't take every edge, but if you can't figure out this is an opportunity to win a huge pot without ooooh, risking your tourney life...

Well, yes, it's so big it needs two wheelbarrows and continual moistening.

What's your point?
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Old 11-18-2006, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: How to Play bottom Pair and Baby FD on the flop?

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Maybe. I don't take every edge, but if you can't figure out this is an opportunity to win a huge pot without ooooh, risking your tourney life...

Well, yes, it's so big it needs two wheelbarrows and continual moistening.

What's your point?

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i just think that the chips you could lose are more valuable than the chips you could gain
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Old 11-18-2006, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: How to Play bottom Pair and Baby FD on the flop?

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against a higher flush draw you're ahead, you're only risking half your stack, so 'tournament life' doesnt even come into it

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true you are only risking half your stack...but you are wrong in that you would be ahead against another flush draw. because he is taking your outs and the third party will have better than bottom pair

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Give stack sizes 'nother look, look at all the possible results.

Can't go broke here, can win a huge pot, get it HU, spike your draw if it isn't out there.

Lead strong's better, 3-bet shove though.

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not to interrupt the debate, but i chose not to lead with the expectation that UTG would fire at the pot, and MP1 would fold or flat-call. my plan was to shove and look for a light call from the maniac and for MP1 to respect the strength of the play and fold.
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